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Shoalwater Cat
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
All of my old deer pictures from the dog days are family pictures. The ones from today are individual pictures.
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You nailed it.


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windshieldman
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
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I think we are finally allowing the animals to reach potential via QDM


So what do you consider potential? What should be the minimum, 3.5 y/o or 3 points on one side? What if someone else says 4.5 y/o should be minimum? Frick all that shite. Y’all can stand around talking about potential while I’m heating up the grease. If I spend time in the woods scouting and working my arse off (no baiting) and right before dark a spike or small buck walks out and not a single doe, I’m not worried about how that deer is gonna look 2 years from now. He’s dead


Ron Cheramie
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
hell I dont know what my point is either anymore!

got two threads going at same time and I'm scatterbrained anyways

something about how we use the term "healthy herd"and what truly defines health doesnt really line up with trophy hunting vs brown and down

one isnt healthier than the other


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Mr Wonderful
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
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windshieldman

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and right before dark a spike or small buck walks out and not a single doe, I’m not worried about how that deer is gonna look 2 years from now. He’s dead

Image: https://media.makeameme.org/created/killed-another-monster.jpg


That you?

Eta: I forgot the best part:
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Y’all can stand around talking about potential while I’m heating up the grease.

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weagle99
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
The relentless obsession with antlers and the solitary still hunting style of modern deer hunting turned me off to the sport.


DeltaDoc
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
You certainly have that right...except in Mississippi, for instance, where that action could carry a hefty fine for not meeting the minimum reqs. required under state law.

I view my land as an investment. It’s undeniable that proof of quality harvest increase land values.

If it’s a lease, then IMO, the right thing to do is to treat the property properly. I think ethically, this means going above and beyond in what you select to harvest.

Your mindset has contributed to the horrible reputation Louisiana hunters have in contiguous states.

Finally, hunting is not simply about killing. I feel sorry for people that view it as just killing. It’s a simpleton way of looking at it, frankly.


windshieldman
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That you?


I’ve probably not ever shot a deer that small but doesn’t mean I wouldn’t. Obviously I wouldn’t take a picture of it but I’ve killed a buck that’s on my wall I didn’t photograph either, and yes he was a really nice public land buck, 10 point


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Gatorgar
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
If u spend a lot of time in the woods scouting your arse off and only see spikes and small bucks then you are hunting in the wrong places or just don’t know how to scout.


windshieldman
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hunting is not simply about killing. I feel sorry for people that view it as just killing. It’s a si


I don’t view it as just killing. Just b/c someone doesn’t hunt for wall hangers doesn’t mean they only hunt to kill something. I enjoy deer meat, I kill 2, very seldom maybe 3, and a hog every year. I hunt public, wear cheap clothes and use old rifles. I don’t spend much money to kill a deer. I can kill 2 deer and a hog and spend very little and it goes a long way in my deep freeze. I love beef also don’t get me wrong. I also enjoy being out in the woods and scouting. Your idea of a nice deer isn’t the same as other people’s. If Louisiana changed rules about it then I’d abide by it but I’d probably get out of hunting, which would make many here happy lol.


windshieldman
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
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If u spend a lot of time in the woods scouting your arse off and only see spikes and small bucks then you are hunting in the wrong places or just don’t know how to scout.


Nope I do see nice deer, see my post above. Some years I have more time to hunt, some I only have 2-3 chances.


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windshieldman
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The relentless obsession with antlers and the solitary still hunting style of modern deer hunting turned me off to the sport.


If social media went away, most would stop caring caring about regulating antler size. 99% of the folks, if they didn’t know another person who hunted and didn’t have social media, would no longer care. The fact that people want to regulate antler size is appalling to me. I don’t need someone, or some board of “experts” telling me what size buck I can kill. There are hunting leases for a reason


Mr Wonderful
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The fact that people want to regulate antler size is appalling to me. I don’t need someone, or some board of “experts” telling me what size buck I can kill.

You tell ’em Cletus!


windshieldman
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You tell ’em Cletus!


I will, thanks


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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
Its turned me off big time. I've gotten to where missing a weekend isnt the biggest deal to me anymore. Trail cameras and still hunting sucks. First thing you hear when somebody shoots a deer is who had it on camera where and all that shite. It's just not a big deal to shoot a buck anymore. Somebody will kill a nice one and I might not hear about it at all unless nobody had a picture of it. It sucks arse compared to the old days.

I killed a nice 8 point and we spent more time talking about an old hunt where I killed a 6 point and we all had to help drag it a mile. That's the shite you remember. Shooting a buck people have had on camera every night for 2 months just isnt that exciting.


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SportTiger1
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
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I don’t need someone, or some board of “experts” telling me what size buck I can kill.


apparently you do

public land deer are not 'your' deer. they belong to the public, and apparently the public would rather allow your spike to become a mature deer.

ETA - as its been said a million times on this board, a young buck is the dumbest, easiest, deer to kill in the woods.
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windshieldman
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
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public land deer are not 'your' deer. they belong to the public, and apparently the public would rather allow your spike to become a mature deer.


As of now, and I don’t see it changing anytime soon the public agrees with me overall, at least in Louisiana. If it does change, then I’ll put down my gun and leave it to y’all

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ETA - as its been said a million times on this board, a young buck is the dumbest, easiest, deer to kill in the woods.


That’s the bucks problem, not mine.
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SportTiger1
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If it does change, then I’ll put down my gun and leave it to y’all


damn, that serious? you refuse to let a spike walk past you?

if anything, it'll be changed to 3 on one side like Mississippi. Definitely not the end of the world.


windshieldman
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damn, that serious? you refuse to let a spike walk past you?


Some years I can hunt more than others. This evening will be my 4th time and last to hunt. I was lucky to be able to go this evening. First time in Kisatchie bow hunting I saw several does that never got in range. 2nd time in small private land that's in-law land I killed a 4 point, 60 acres and I'm the only hunter on it. 3rd hunt in Kisatchie saw a 6 point and 2 does but a random dog came through and startled them, not even mad at the dog, shite happens.

Unfortunately I left my bow which I bought used in 99 from a friend so it was old on my back seat. My 6 y/o went in back of my truck to get something and sat on it and bent it and broke the sight also. Plus it fell on floor board and a heavy kit I use for windshields fell on top of it and made matters worse. No more bow hunting this year In years I know I won't get many opportunities I'm not going to waste my time if they try to regulate what we can harvest even more.

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if anything, it'll be changed to 3 on one side like Mississippi.


As I always ask, why not 4,5, or 6? Why do people determine 3 is the best way, who decides that? Why is that best for me and many others? It's just antlers. I understand limits on #s of deer killed, we don't want shite going extinct, I just don't get it as far as antler size. I don't wanna be told no b/c someone else may wanna post a pic of that same deer in 2 years on Instagram.

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Definitely not the end of the world.


True, but I've seen enough young adults and teenagers get shamed by what they killed and quit hunting or just decided to not go back. It's unfortunate, but big antlers are what matters now to many hunters and that's all that matters. People can throw the words "herd health" and all that BS they want, the one and only thing people truly care about is what size rack a buck gets to and we all know it.

ETA: When it's all said and done I'd still keep squirrel hunting. My time I have available to hunt is not other people's problem, I just disagree with the rules and I've stated my reasons many times on here. But if squirrel hunting ever got popular again at some point there'd be folks wanting to limit it to 2 y/o squirrels, or fox squirrels only, or some bull shite like that........for herd health.
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pointdog33
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re: B & C ruined deer and hunting camps
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I enjoy deer meat,


Bigger deer will give you more of this.

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I hunt public


If you had your own property with the ability to hold deer, I'd be willing to bet you'd change your perspective on it.

Transitioning to being able to be selective in what deer you kill rather than killing first one that walks out is a very rewarding feeling.


windshieldman
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Bigger deer will give you more of this


Deer get big and not have big antlers, does can get big also.



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