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re: Assistance to agricultural producers in LA
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:24 pm to jimbeam
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:24 pm to jimbeam
quote:
I'm preparing to see an onslaught
From which side? Being the OB, I figure there would be a few fellow farmers on the board.
Granted, it's getting late and most have probably gone to sleep.
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:26 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
We are in to the man 7 digits every year.
I can assure you I understand the risks.
Were you one of the jokers above I was referring to?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:28 pm to stewie
I'm confused.
Who were you referring to?
I think we ar on same team here,
Who were you referring to?
I think we ar on same team here,
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:35 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
I think we are on same team here,
We are.
However, I do think that we can do a better job of explaining the risks/difficulties faced every year. Hence, the need for some type of safety net.
Granted, the realization of how much we need farmers and Ag land won't really hit home until we can't feed ourselves.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:39 pm to stewie
I agree.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:42 pm to stewie
quote:
Granted, the realization of how much we need farmers and Ag land won't really hit home until we can't feed ourselves.
Exactly. Maybe if people started to starve because farmers cant put food on the table would they then realize how important farmers are.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:05 pm to shoelessjoe
quote:
Exactly. Maybe if people started to starve because farmers cant put food on the table would they then realize how important farmers are.
Yup, back to the OP, I'm going to pass that along to the land owners. We are already involved with a number of NRCS programs but I don't think they are aware if the migratory bird program.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:49 pm to stewie
You guys are lucky..try catfish farming. We have no subsidies or insurance if we lose our fish to disease or oxygen problems there goes hundreds of thousands of dollars in just 1 night.
Hell with high feed and fuel prices and fish at only 95 cents a pound we barely can turn a profit anyways.
Hell with high feed and fuel prices and fish at only 95 cents a pound we barely can turn a profit anyways.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:50 pm to deltaland
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We are in to the man 7 digits every year.
I can assure you I understand the risks.
You are better than this.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:04 am to xenon16
Sure let's put more farmers on the dole.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:14 am to GREENHEAD22
This program isn't really new. Past couple of years for sure farmers I know who have been paid to keep water at a certain depth for waterfowl. It basically just covers pumping costs when you get down to the numbers. So basically free water for farmers held over the winter.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:27 am to shoelessjoe
quote:good grief. How about I just pay farmers for their food & cut out the government?
Maybe if people started to starve because farmers cant put food on the table would they then realize how important farmers are.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:29 am to Tigah in the ATL
Over time the market would most likely correct itself
Posted on 5/2/13 at 5:53 am to Tigah in the ATL
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good grief. How about I just pay farmers for their food & cut out the government?
You would be paying much more for your food. Much, much more.
The price of rent, labor, and chemicals is through the roof compared to just about every other location in the world.
Just to stay alive from the competition against a foreign treasury, most of us have become incredibly efficient.
Remember, not all farmers receive subsidies.
Another thing, being in debt seven digits every year (i.e. basic crop loan) is to be expected for many farmers. How would you feel if you had to sit and watch your crop rot in the field due to unseasonably high rain fall during harvest time?
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:14 am to jimbeam
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Over time the market would most likely correct itself
That's the thing about food, you don't have time for market corrections.
Consider other markets, like housing. Suppose you were in the market for a house, then suddenly the housing market collapsed and you couldn't get a loan, or even sell your current house for more than the loan, so you couldn't move. You could wait out the market until it stabilized. That's the case with most widgets, you can hold off on your purchases until the market stabilizes and prices come in line with your ability to pay. You can't do that in the food market - you HAVE to eat EVERY day.
Boom and bust cycles in the ag markets can be devastating to a population.
Oh, and sugarcane and cattle on our farm.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:08 pm to stewie
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Because if you actually spent some time on the farm and understood the finances, you would realize the amount of risk involved.
A lot of people run their mouth off about the people that put food in that mouth for an absurdly low price.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:11 pm to GREENHEAD22
GREENHEAD, I know some FARMERS who wish there WAS no assistance and truly feel that markets would correct themselves. Not that it might work well for the reasons you stated about the time factor).
(Coming from the spouse of a farmer who works his arse off and loves what he does) (rice, beans, crawfish)
(Coming from the spouse of a farmer who works his arse off and loves what he does) (rice, beans, crawfish)
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:27 pm to tiger91
thanks to those who do pass it along, I quite enjoy my daily food AND seasonal ducks
wasn't an attempt to create conflict, but as more and more OTers are coming over, it seems as though most posts do
wasn't an attempt to create conflict, but as more and more OTers are coming over, it seems as though most posts do
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