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Anyone have a gun/ammo misfire story?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:42 am
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:42 am
Happened to me and my son this weekend. He is 12 and just getting into hunting. He was gonna roll a spike in the food plot, only his second deer ever. Gun clicked, deer spooked and I could have vomited. The primer had a significant strike, no ignition. So wondering if anyone ever had a story to share? Im guessing bad primer or maybe wet powder inside? shells are several years old. Got back to camp and next 3 rounds from mag fired no with no issue...
Either way, still throwing away that box, not wasting my time playing Russian Roulette in the deer stand
30-06 remington woodmaster 742 AKA (meat gun/Jam-o-matic)
Winchester 150 gr ballistic silvertips
Either way, still throwing away that box, not wasting my time playing Russian Roulette in the deer stand
30-06 remington woodmaster 742 AKA (meat gun/Jam-o-matic)
Winchester 150 gr ballistic silvertips
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 8:51 am
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:18 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
sometimes you just get a bad primer.
I reload and get them somewhat occasionally on pistol rounds.
if it were bad powder the primer would still fire and cause a squib most likely. Primers are much stronger than people think.
I reload and get them somewhat occasionally on pistol rounds.
if it were bad powder the primer would still fire and cause a squib most likely. Primers are much stronger than people think.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:19 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
My daughters first ever shot on a doe. I bought her a new Savage Axis II. We spent a couple days at the range getting it sighted in and her used to the rifle. I used Hornady American Whitetail cartridges for everything. In the stand she gets a doe in the scope for the what is going to be her first ever deer. She pulls the trigger and CLICK! The doe, about 50yds away, never even flinched and my daughter looks back at me and says "did i shoot"? She must have been so nervous. I had her eject the round and reload. She was able to get lined up again and sent the next round right into her heart and it dropped right there.
It was a wild and slightly frantic situation and my best deer hunting experience to this day.
I keep the cartridge in the safe. It has the lightest indentation on the primer. it has yet to misfire again using the same ammo.
It was a wild and slightly frantic situation and my best deer hunting experience to this day.
I keep the cartridge in the safe. It has the lightest indentation on the primer. it has yet to misfire again using the same ammo.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:27 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Benelli SBEII clicked on me on 3 different toms, I don't turkey hunt with that gun anymore
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:32 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
A friend of mine with. 742 had a bad habit of spraying his gun down with WD-40 and then wiping it off with a rag.I told him not to get any in the magazine as it would seep into the primers and cause failure to fire.I’m not a gun guru,I had read that somewhere.Anyway he didn’t listen and one day good buck walked out on him and primer failed to fire.All the bullets in his magazine were duds.
As far as the 742 being a jam-o-magic gunsmith I used to go to told me the chamber had a tendency to rust because the cycle time was too fast and fire would be coming out of case as it would being ejected.This would burn the oil out of the chamber and then it would rust.The fix was to polish chamber with steel wool and the wipe the chamber with q-tip with oil on it.I had the 7400,successor to 742,had the same issue.He polished the chamber and I would wipe it with oil soaked q-tip every time after I shot it and I never had it jam again.
As far as the 742 being a jam-o-magic gunsmith I used to go to told me the chamber had a tendency to rust because the cycle time was too fast and fire would be coming out of case as it would being ejected.This would burn the oil out of the chamber and then it would rust.The fix was to polish chamber with steel wool and the wipe the chamber with q-tip with oil on it.I had the 7400,successor to 742,had the same issue.He polished the chamber and I would wipe it with oil soaked q-tip every time after I shot it and I never had it jam again.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:44 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Many moons ago, my dad bought a Remington Model 11 16 gauge. It pretty much became my gun during high school.
The guy he bought it from had a lot of extra 16 gauge shells that he gave my dad because he didn't have another 16. Some of those shells were pretty old and had paper cases.
While not really a "misfire" on more more than one occasion, the paper cases ruptured causing a failure to fully eject the shell casing. In the end, we ended up ditching most of those.
The guy he bought it from had a lot of extra 16 gauge shells that he gave my dad because he didn't have another 16. Some of those shells were pretty old and had paper cases.
While not really a "misfire" on more more than one occasion, the paper cases ruptured causing a failure to fully eject the shell casing. In the end, we ended up ditching most of those.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:54 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
When I was around 14 my dad took me to texas. I missed a massive buck and would have had a second shot but the woodmaster 742 failed to eject the round :(
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:59 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
When I was about 12 I had never shot a pintail always hunted the woods. We were in rice field and had our limit minus one duck. A group of pintails starts working and then a pile of other ducks. Seemed like two hundred ducks just doing it right right in front of us. Ducks were lighting all around us but the pintails were weary. Finally a big drake gets about a foot off the decoys and I go to shoot and the pellets just roll out of my barrel. My shells had gotten wet A week later we were hunting in brake and a pintail came in with a a group of mallards. I picked the pintail and rolled him up so I thought. Go thru the button willows and he is swimming off and I couldn’t get a shot on him before he got out of sight.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:03 am to Lonnie Utah
First deer I ever shot at. I was probably 12 years old, one of the first times hunting by myself. Had an old lever action 30-30 my dad got in a trade. Doe walked out and I took a shot. "Click" I slowly cycled the action and took the round out by hand. Closed the action and fired. Missed. Doe just stood there looking around. I slowly cycled again, fired and she jumped and ran. Never found any blood and never found her.
Last year shooting some 45 Colt rounds, one went click. Opened the loading gate on my Vaquero and spun the cylinder. No primer in the case. Found it in the ammo box. Remington HTP
Last year shooting some 45 Colt rounds, one went click. Opened the loading gate on my Vaquero and spun the cylinder. No primer in the case. Found it in the ammo box. Remington HTP
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:07 am to Loup
Would have been my first deer!! I was 12 on our family farm in Dublin GA. The year before I was lent a 30/30 and shot a spike and never found him. We had a forester working timber in late September and saw the largest buck he had ever seen. We knew there was a monster on the farm had sheds from him the year before that measured 162 net.
Our stands on the farm have long narrow shooting lanes. I was sitting with my grandpa who 2 years before had killed a 149 inch 10. I was shooting a new .243 gifted to me for my 12th bday. Turns out we picked the right stand that November morning. The monster walked out I honestly was clueless but my grandfather almost fell out the stand. He said shoot him shoot him. I pulled up put it on him real quick pulled the trigger and nothing turns out the safety was still on. I had one last chance got on him right before he left the lane and pulled the trigger. "CLICK" and it was a misfire. He walked off into the pines never to be seen again.
Forester found his sheds that spring he measured out at 179 net 14 pts. You should have seen how my grandpa talked about that deer to my dad. Oh well!
Our stands on the farm have long narrow shooting lanes. I was sitting with my grandpa who 2 years before had killed a 149 inch 10. I was shooting a new .243 gifted to me for my 12th bday. Turns out we picked the right stand that November morning. The monster walked out I honestly was clueless but my grandfather almost fell out the stand. He said shoot him shoot him. I pulled up put it on him real quick pulled the trigger and nothing turns out the safety was still on. I had one last chance got on him right before he left the lane and pulled the trigger. "CLICK" and it was a misfire. He walked off into the pines never to be seen again.
Forester found his sheds that spring he measured out at 179 net 14 pts. You should have seen how my grandpa talked about that deer to my dad. Oh well!
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:21 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
I have a huge 6pt that is at least 5 yr old. We've been trying to cull him for 3 yrs now. I had him at 60 yds last yr. When I fired it just clicked. The primer was set too deep in the casing for a proper strike. That 6pt has 9 lives!
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:42 am to ducksnbass
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Had an old lever action 30-30
Sound like me. I was maybe 14 or 15. Winchester soft point 150 grain. Went Click on a nice 8 pt. By the time I racked in another shell he was gone. Primer was dented fine. I threw it in the creek and cussed a lot.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:45 am to 2geaux
Had an 1187 not lock the bolt and the gun fired. As i recall there was a lot of flame shooting out the breach, it was loud as F. It ended up destroying the gun as the bolt was jammed back in the receiver. Rem replaced the gun as it is common issue. I sold the replacement and went w beretta shotguns. No issues to date.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:46 am to OntarioTiger
I reload and shoot lots of clays. Bad primers happen. Not often but they do happen.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:58 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Throw away the jam master and get that boy a decent rifle.
I’ve heard of three different instances of Hornady reduced recoil in 7mm-08 not firing.
I’ve heard of three different instances of Hornady reduced recoil in 7mm-08 not firing.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:08 am to 257WBY
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Throw away the jam master and get that boy a decent rifle.
Up until this weekend we have acutally been using my .308 AR platform Windham Weaponry with the P-308 optics. Mostly because he likes to shoot it and is comfortable with the recoil, and the adjustable stock is good for him. He does not like the BDC reticle and says it is confusing, so we opted for the woodmaster 742 because its topped with a 3.5-10 x 50 mm Leupold duplex reticle. I also have a Browning A-Bolt 7mm synthetic/stainless with a 4.5-14 x50mm gold ring, but he is not comfortable with shooting it. (I think the work MAG is in his head, lol)
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:14 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Ive got a Japanese Citori that was occasionally misfiring on the top barrel on the second shot...never on the first shot but I almost always shoot the bottom barrel first. The primer would look like it had been scratched. I replaced the firing pin and it helped but didn't fix it.
I call Browning and told them I thought the action needed to be rebuilt and the very nice person I spoke with told me if it did it would be the first one he'd seen in 30 years. I shipped it to them and got a call from the same person...apologizing....and told me that the action was indeed almost worn out completely LOL. Duck blinds will do that to a gun.
The really cool part of the story is that Browning only charged me for the parts....there was no labor charge at all because they said that action should not wear out! This is a mass produced production O/U...nothing overly fancy...I think I paid about $900 for it about 30 years ago. Entire cost of repair including shipping was less than $200 and it shoots like brand new now. Gotta love that kind of product support.
I call Browning and told them I thought the action needed to be rebuilt and the very nice person I spoke with told me if it did it would be the first one he'd seen in 30 years. I shipped it to them and got a call from the same person...apologizing....and told me that the action was indeed almost worn out completely LOL. Duck blinds will do that to a gun.
The really cool part of the story is that Browning only charged me for the parts....there was no labor charge at all because they said that action should not wear out! This is a mass produced production O/U...nothing overly fancy...I think I paid about $900 for it about 30 years ago. Entire cost of repair including shipping was less than $200 and it shoots like brand new now. Gotta love that kind of product support.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:25 am to OntarioTiger
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Had an 1187 not lock the bolt and the gun fired. As i recall there was a lot of flame shooting out the breach, it was loud as F. It ended up destroying the gun as the bolt was jammed back in the receiver. Rem replaced the gun as it is common issue. I sold the replacement and went w beretta shotguns. No issues to date.
A buddy and I were hunting with a guide in Arkansas years ago, out of a boat blind. Just before shooting time my buddy loads the magazine of his BPS and, with the butt of the gun sitting on the bottom of the boat and thankfully the barrel pointing straight up, jacks a shell into the chamber. Gun fires IMMEDIATELY! Scared us all to death...nothing near the trigger!
Of course the guide doesn't know us from adams house cat so he starts in the the lecture that gun safety is the most important thing, especially in the tight confines of a boat blind....and jacks a shell into his BPS...same exact thing happened! WIthin 5 minutes 2 nearly identical Browning pump guns fire as soon as a shell was jacked into the chamber....nothing near the trigger, safety in the proper position both times. Needless to say all 3 of us were very nervous LOL. I was shooting a winchester model 12 and I didn't even load it that morning....we picked up the decoys and went to the hill. It never happened again...we tried several times once out of the boat....nothing. The weather was miserable that morning but it was about 20 degrees....not extreme by any stretch. To this day I still shudder thinking about this experience.
I do know that my buddies BPS would fire if you held the trigger down and worked the action. I think Browning corrected this the BPS shortly after that and may have had a recall. I bet it was a combination of the trigger position and the fault in design that caused those 2 guns to behave in that manner.....very scary morning.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:47 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Was my second year to deer hunting at a later age, 20 years ago, had the same happen to me with a 30-06 Remington 742 Woodmaster - it was a used gun given to me by my father that he picked up at a pawn shop and he never used. I had killed a doe with it previous season, sighted it in, all with no firing issues. On a single afternoon hunt opening weekend that gun misfired, “clicked”, on a large boar hog, the largest 8 pt buck I’ve ever seen or shot at that lease in 20+ years of hunting there, at a distance of 25 yards, followed by a 4 pt that walked on the plot and the gun mis-fired 3 times on that deer. I wasn’t a kid but I was damn near in tears being new, and inexperienced in deer hunting, and never having shot a buck. I can still remember that day like it was yesterday, and for a long time my hunting buddies jokingly called me “Click”.
Back at the camp, working with rifle I was able to finally get the rifle to fire but the shell jammed and would not eject nor could I remove the spent cartridge. Brought the rifle to a local gunsmith, and he laughed when I brought it in and said another “Jammaster”. Anyway as LSUA75 described, the problem was a lightly rusty, lightly pitted throat chamber that caused the cartridge to not seat properly when closing the chamber. The chamber throat was cleaned and polished, and test fired by the gunsmith. He showed me the spent cartridge that jammed and the pitting marks in the brass from the corrosion in the throat and the pristine cartridge from his test fire after cleaning and polishing. He told me this gun model was notorious for this problem issue, and the chamber throat needed to impeccably cleaned and maintained for reliable function. Gave the gun back to my Dad and bought a bolt action. LOL
OP - sounds like a bad cartridge but I’d consider bringing the rifle to a gunsmith after the deer season is over and have them clean and polish the throat on that rifle, with instructions on how to best maintain it - just in case. Would hate to see that happen again on the buck of a lifetime, as it did for me.
Back at the camp, working with rifle I was able to finally get the rifle to fire but the shell jammed and would not eject nor could I remove the spent cartridge. Brought the rifle to a local gunsmith, and he laughed when I brought it in and said another “Jammaster”. Anyway as LSUA75 described, the problem was a lightly rusty, lightly pitted throat chamber that caused the cartridge to not seat properly when closing the chamber. The chamber throat was cleaned and polished, and test fired by the gunsmith. He showed me the spent cartridge that jammed and the pitting marks in the brass from the corrosion in the throat and the pristine cartridge from his test fire after cleaning and polishing. He told me this gun model was notorious for this problem issue, and the chamber throat needed to impeccably cleaned and maintained for reliable function. Gave the gun back to my Dad and bought a bolt action. LOL
OP - sounds like a bad cartridge but I’d consider bringing the rifle to a gunsmith after the deer season is over and have them clean and polish the throat on that rifle, with instructions on how to best maintain it - just in case. Would hate to see that happen again on the buck of a lifetime, as it did for me.
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:50 am to Gtmodawg
A guy at our club had a barrel blow up on a 12 gauge this weekend running dogs. That was some scary looking shite.
I once had some wet shotgun shells go poof and the BB's barely made it out of the end of the barrel on a huge flock of greenheads coming in. This was when I first started duck hunting and greenheads were a mythical creature that we rarely saw.
I once had some wet shotgun shells go poof and the BB's barely made it out of the end of the barrel on a huge flock of greenheads coming in. This was when I first started duck hunting and greenheads were a mythical creature that we rarely saw.
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