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Anyone ever taken on an antique whaler restoration project?

Posted on 6/20/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 6:15 pm
I found a 1973 13’ super sport in great condition for the age. Most of the work will be on the inside of the hull. The outer is fine.

I’ve found a lot of videos but wondering if the fiberglass work DIY is worth the trouble that it seems to be.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17760 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 6:18 pm to
Don’t do because you think it will be cheap.

Decide what your expectations are
Figure your time and money budget and double it.

I tried an antique glass boat restore and failed miserably.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 6:23 pm to
I’m thinking of farming out the blasting for sure. I think I can handle the filler coats and the priming.


It’s that last couple of sandings that terrify me. I’m a perfectionist. I won’t be able to stand a few wavy spots.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11193 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 8:41 pm to
I got to ride in a '69 this weekend and I gotta have one now. Freaking awesome boat.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 8:42 pm
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
521 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 6:34 am to
Did one a few years ago and now we dont ever use it.

Wouldnt suggest unless you have a need for it or no other boats.

Also dont tie up a bunch of money in it. Not easy to sell a restored one.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:42 am to
OP, first thing, go weight it to see how much water has soaked into the foam core. You can get the specks on how much it weight was new. If it is way over, run. Being a foam core hull and to redo it is a job and a shite load more.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38923 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:52 am to
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13’


That’s a tender. Maybe a 16 or 19, no on the 13.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:58 am to
Had 13’ paid $800 in 2015.

Friend has a shop in Florida that does offshore boat restoration and repairs.
After seeing the work they did first hand it would have taken me longer and cost more money.

Cost me $4,200 plus $1,300 for an aluminum trailer.

Boat was tricked out with led lights and electronics.

Total cost without motor for 13’ with a trailer back in 2015 was $6,300.

I broke even on the boat as there not a huge market for the 13’ in Louisiana.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38625 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:58 am to
I rehabbed about 18’ McKee craft, basically the same thing.
as FF noted above the whaler is a sandwich of an inner cap and the hull with foam injected between them. There are no stringers or other structural support

so, investigate the foam first.
otherwise they are easy boats to work on
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:18 pm to
It’s a project for me and the kids. Not trying to make money.

I can’t find a soft spot on it so far.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:24 pm to
Where is your friend’s shop. I may be interested

I’m only in for $2k with good motor and trailer.

I have some wiggle room.

About a grand in wood is all I need besides the fiberglass work and paint.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2061 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Did one a few years ago and now we dont ever use it.


Want to sell it? Look at my recent post history and you will know I am shopping for a small rig right now.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 7:51 pm to
My uncle did about 3 years ago. It sat in his garage for about 2.5 years and moved to my cousins house. Looks as crappy and untouched as it did 3.5 years ago.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10182 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:43 am to
Like anything else, depends on how much you want to spend in both money and time....

I'm doing one now on a 1971 17' Montauk. So many variables when redoing a boat, but we are keeping it relatively simple. Sand and repaint, new hardware, electronics, etc.

My advice is spend the money to buy closer to what you actually want.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:03 am to
quote:

I’ve found a lot of videos but wondering if the fiberglass work DIY is worth the trouble that it seems to be.


Fiberglass work isn't difficult but it is tedious and time sensitive which makes it stressful....but it is pretty simple and straightforward and difficult to foul up. You may use more resin than a pro, and it ain't cheap by any means, and sand more than a pro, again, not a lot of fun, but it is hard to foul it up.

Restoring a boat to like new condition is not cost effective and has to be a labor of love or simply a hobby because you will never get it to new again for the amount of money you can buy a new one for. But, if you are looking for what would amount to a custom hull for you and all you care about are hull integrity, mechanical soundness and modern amenities like electronics etc and you aren't concerned with minor cosmetic defects repowering and refurbing an older boat, especially an offshore boat, is a helluva bargain compared to buying new.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:49 pm to
How do you eliminate water that has gotten into the core?
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10182 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

How do you eliminate water that has gotten into the core?



You have to drill a hole in the bad spot and then flip it to let it drain. Then patch the hole. Very time consuming project.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5118 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:53 pm to
And Spensive:)
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3188 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:15 am to
quote:

Restoring a boat to like new condition is not cost effective and has to be a labor of love or simply a hobby because you will never get it to new again for the amount of money you can buy a new one for.


True statement. 85yo FIL has a 1985 Outrage and Yamaha long shaft 150 that he has owned since new. The wife wants to keep and restore the boat once the inevitable happens. I have no issues dumping some cash into it but it will be a labor of love. I could handle it all if I chose to but I’m going to handle the mechanical and let a qualified fiberglass guy handle the cosmetic. Will still use it some afterward but only on a limited basis.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:57 am to
Why flip the boat?
Seems like you just drill the hole at lowest point and let drain
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