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re: Anybody Else Chasing Red Snapper This Weekend?

Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:08 pm to
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We are headed to Venice


Hang a right just to the west of South Passabout 2 miles. Those rigs are full of red snapper. Are within 2 miles of state waters.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:22 pm to
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They can check all they want at the Marina. I think the only question is what happens if they check you between the 3 mile line and the 10 mile line.......


Again, this is not 100% true. Keeping 3 in state waters is still against federal law. It doesn't matter if you catch them from the dock. 3 > 2 and 2 is the highest limit that has been legally vetted.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:24 pm to
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We are giong to Get IT till The Ticket... its only money......


Are you sure a ticket is their only recourse? I could see them pressing confiscations, but I'd like to see how southerners would respond to the Coast Guard punitively enforcing fishing regs during "sequestration."
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:29 pm to
The only problem with it is going out past 10 miles. I'm not going to go out there and stay with 10 miles. At that point, the reds we catch are usually small and diversity is minimal. I guess we could always go to our deepwater rigs and catch our grouper, lemons, and 2 per person. Then return to within 10 for everyone's third snapper.

We do sometimes come back in to chase lemons and mangroves when we're tired of feeding red snappers. However, we usually just find big pockets of reds.

Hell, maybe the increased take of reds from close waters will help the mangrove stocks get back to how they were 6-8 years ago. There were days when we filled 4 limits of mangroves in 2 hours with a good number of them in the 8-10 range. Now we can hardly get the bait in the water without a barely legal red taking it. You'd swear they're going to starve the triggers at that rate.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Member since Feb 2011
2758 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:30 pm to
Im not sure what is goin to happen if we are ticketed, but we have to much money invested into the sport to just let the equipment sit, hopefully we are not the first ppl to find out what happens!
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:41 pm to
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but we have to much money invested into the sport to just let the equipment sit,


No doubt about that. I'll probably give it a few weeks at 2 per before I test my luck.

That said, back to the point of the post above, it gets sickening when you drop $800 on fuel and spend all day trying to keep snapper from dying only to head back to the dock with 8 fish.

Basically, for it to be worth the money, the snapper almost need to come as bycatch in between less limited species.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 7:45 am to
Whatever the Feds do, we will find out come Saturday!!!!

The State says we can fish out to 10 miles and keep 3, so that's what we are gonna do.

I sent a question about underage fishermen as follows:

"What is the age limit for those required to posses a Landing permit? If underage fishermen need Permit, but are not required to have a Fishing license, what should be typed in lieu of Fishing License number?"


I got an very quick reply as follows:

"Everyone onboard the vessel fishing for tunas, swordfish, billfish, snappers (except gray snapper), groupers and hinds will need to have the permit. Simply leave the license field blank and submit, a permit will be generated. If you have any trouble, please call me at the number below."

So, EVERYONE on the boat must have this Permit, regardless of age. We will have our paperwork in order and as far as we are concerned, we will not be illegal.

Hell, somebody has got to be the first to jump.......
Posted by lafishcommander
Grand Isle
Member since Mar 2013
43 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:37 am to
Just to let everyone know it is still illegal to posses a red snapper beyond 3 mile until the state line has been changed to 10 miles. I was told that the feds will be with the coast guard monitoring and checking boats beyond three miles. I was also told that the feds will be out to write as many tickets as possible. They are not happy about Louisiana going non compliant. Also Gag and scamp grouper are closed, gag will reopen July 1 and scamp April 1. Good luck this weekend looks like 4-6 foot seas if not bigger this weekend. There was a lot of fog yesterday morning and afternoon from venice all the way to fourchon. The Yellowfin Tuna and amberjack were jumping in the boat yesterday.
[link=()]Yellowfin tuna caught out of Grand Isle yesterday[/link]
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50019 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:39 am to
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Also Gag and scamp grouper are closed, gag will reopen July 1 and scamp April 1
THIS IS SO STUPID



We got stopped in 2011 by the feds (around Freshwater Bayou) and they had to pull out his little fish ID book to identify the scamp
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 9:40 am
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:23 am to
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I was also told that the feds will be out to write as many tickets as possible. They are not happy about Louisiana going non compliant.


Thanks for the input. Why has Texas been able to be non-compliant for years?

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Good luck this weekend looks like 4-6 foot seas if not bigger this weekend.


This might just save me a ticket.......

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Just to let everyone know it is still illegal to posses a red snapper beyond 3 mile until the state line has been changed to 10 miles.


And why does the local Newspaper keep telling everyone otherwise??
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:25 am to
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We got stopped in 2011 by the feds (around Freshwater Bayou) and they had to pull out his little fish ID book to identify the scamp




One of the EASIEST fish to ID IMO.........
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:30 am to
I have said it from day one. This has clusterfrick written all over it.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13676 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:38 am to
Texas has the 3 leagues from shore recognized by the feds, we don't. If you are going, I'd go to Venice and fish inside the 3 miles.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:38 am to
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I have said it from day one. This has clusterfrick written all over it.


Kinda like the Leeville Toll Bridge....
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:43 am to
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Kinda like the Leeville Toll Bridge...


Hell yeah. That's going to put a serious hurt on Tyd's. You either pay a toll to cross to Tyd's or pay twice as much for goods in Fourchon.
Posted by lafishcommander
Grand Isle
Member since Mar 2013
43 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:21 am to
Right now the state is in the process of changing the state waters to 10 miles however it has not passed in congress. When or if it does then you can legally catch red snapper out to 10 miles. But for now you can get a ticket beyond 3 miles. Also if you have a federal reef permit on your boat you have to follow federal regulations. That means you are not allowed to keep a red snapper during the state season with a federal reef permit so very few of the charter boats will be able to catch snapper until the federal season opens.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
59571 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:23 am to
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Also if you have a federal reef permit on your boat you have to follow federal regulations
what exactly is this for?
Posted by lafishcommander
Grand Isle
Member since Mar 2013
43 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:28 am to
All vessels for hire "charter boats" have to have a federal reef permit in order to catch groups,snapper, amberjack and several other species. Some charter boats only have a tuna and pelagic permit. These boats can only catch tuna,wahoo, dorado,and marlin
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
59571 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:29 am to
Understood
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50019 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:38 am to
I understand that but doesn't state regulation trump federal regulation in the states territory?

I know y'all have probably spoke extensively with state and fed agencies.


Like the Colorado marijuana laws are allowed even though its illegal in the US
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