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re: Any reason why the 6.5 creedmoor wouldn't make for a great youth rifle?

Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:23 pm to
I feel obligated to post in every creed more thread that the 6.5x55 swede has been around since something like 1890 and doing the same thing.

.260 Remington has been around since I think the 60's doing the same thing.

They're all fantastic soft kicking calibers. I killed my first deer at 6 years old with a 6.5x55.
Posted by jgthunt
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:33 pm to
One of my nephews shoots a 260 the other shoots a 7mm08
Haven't decided on what I'm gonna buy for my daughter. Leaning 243 but may go 260. Or may just by both, one for each kid.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:14 am to
Seriously asking a question.

Of what advantage is the 6.5 creedmor over the .308 for hunting in the South.

I just don't get going for a rarer cartrige that is more expensive and harder to find for very little if any advantage.


Posted by 257WBY
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:37 am to
For a kid, less recoil with the 6.5.

For adults, no advantage with the 6.5 until you get past 400 yards. The advantage of the .308 is a heavier bullet.
My son shot a .308 as a kid and killed around 50 deer with it. Very impressive deer caliber.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:51 am to
quote:

For a kid, less recoil with the 6.5.

For adults, no advantage with the 6.5 until you get past 400 yards. The advantage of the .308 is a heavier bullet.
My son shot a .308 as a kid and killed around 50 deer with it. Very impressive deer caliber.



Thanks, to each his own but in the OP's scenario I would probably go .308, just hard to say if the 6.5 will remain popular. JMHO

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:56 am to
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just hard to say if the 6.5 will remain popular. JMHO


Ballistics aren’t going to change.
Posted by reggo75
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:58 am to
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My daughters shoot a 7mm-08 with 120 gr Hornady reduced recoil loads and they love it


This is the round my kids shoot also from their 7mm-08. 4 deer shot at so far and all have gone less than 50 yds. 1 dropped in it's tracks.

I also have some 140gr Remington Core Lokt that I bought to shoot out of it for myself. 1 deer shot and it dropped right there. I didn't notice much difference in point of impact out to 100 yds with the 2 different rounds.
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:06 am to
Get the 7mm.
Your kid can grow into it. It can shoot 168gr bullets.

If you shooting paper at long range get a CM. If its strictly hunting the 7mm is what you want.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:32 am to
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Ballistics aren’t going to change.


You are correct and I certianly am not downing it, I just don't see the point.

I am also old enough to have seen many calibers come into and go out of fad, sometimes the ammo gets a bit pricey and harder to find, dos not make them worse in any way just a pita.

Go try to find a box of .222 Remengton or 25-.06, hell even .280 can be tricky sometimes and they were the hot item not so long ago, I also own a .264 Win and .257 Whby and they are damn near impossible to find on short notice.

I am simply saying I would buy my son a gun he could give his son with a reasonable expectation they can find ammo for it easily in 50 years, just the way I am I guess. JMHO

Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:07 am to
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6.5x55 swede
Long action. Stop bringing it up.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:46 am to
No
Posted by Manatee
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:24 pm to
My son shoots a 7mm08 and by all accounts is a great deer round, I shoot 308 and like it because you can go heavier and have great ballistics for realistic hunting ranges on larger deer (bucks). The creedmor is flat but the differences come pretty much out of 99.9% peoples realistic hunting range. My opinion if you want to shoot at something 500 yards away get a 300 WM, you will have mass and velocity on your side that is why the military snipers are moving to the 300.
Posted by Manatee
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:26 pm to
Also, use an Interlock or similar, much better knock down power than say an SST ballistic tip.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

just hard to say if the 6.5 will remain popular. JMHO


Ballistics aren’t going to change.


I agree, cave canem. As you pointed out, there are a lot of gun rounds w/ fine ballistics that now are endangered species as far as finding factory ammo. I "think" the CM will survive. OTOH, I also thought the 260 Rem would survive but it seems to be on the "endangered species" list. Gun rounds that rise fast w/ popularity seem to be susceptible to falling into disfavor just as fast.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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257 Whby and they are damn near impossible to find on short notice.


It is?

I can go to any of 20 or more websites and have it at my door in 3 days.

I see what you're saying but the 6.5cm has been bought by a whole lot of people. That will most likely keep. Plus it's used by a whole lot of people in LR competitions.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:26 pm to
Creedmore has a wayyyyyy cooler name so it isnt going anywhere
Posted by AP83
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 6:46 pm to
Just get a 308. My daughter is 9 skinny as a rail and shoots her .308 ruger American with 150 grain bullets with no issues. Never once complained of recoil. Not saying the 6.5 isn’t a good round just don’t understand the obsession lately with it.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:24 pm to
6.5 Creed is a great round. It’s as simple as that.
But a great question is why are so many adults who already own deer rifles buying the 6.5? Most deer hunters would be well served to take the rifle they have, correctly mount the scope, and put range time in with the rifle. Whether it’s a .243 or a 300 mag, nothing beats familiarity with the rifle.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:03 pm to
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Creedmore has a wayyyyyy cooler name so it isnt going anywhere

There 'ya go!! Sometimes it seems like that's how modern decisions are made. Gotta admit you disappointed me Downshift. I expected you jump in on behalf of the Swede on page 1!
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:19 pm to
As far as whitetail deer hunting in LA, a person would have a hard time telling an appreciable difference on deer from a list of the following calibers: 25-06. 260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 Sweede, 270 Win, 7-08, 7X57 Mauser, 280 Remington, 308 Win and 30-06. All but 3 of the aforementioned rounds came from either the 308 or 30-06. Any of the above will do well. Yeah, a short action will be a few ounces lighter, a little bit shorter and (all things being equal) recoil a little less. Where are you going to get your ammo? You're ok if ordering online, but will need to consider ammo availability if buying from a local store. For example, my local WM doesn't stock the 7-08 and it's unlikely you'll find 260 Rem ammo locally. I've never seen CM ammo at my WM. Growing up in the Pacific NW, my first big game rifle was a 270 Win. Nowadays, I hunt w/ single shot bolt action pistols and 2 of my favorite are the 308 Win and the 7-08. When my son started deer hunting at 10 y/o, I bought him a bolt action in 308 Win and handloaded some reduced ammo for him w/ the 125 gr Nosler BT. He killed a bunch of deer w/ it. A few months ago I bought a Thompson/Center bolt action rifle at a great price for a future "grand child's" deer gun. What was the caliber?? 7-08 Rem Certainly there are other calibers that'll kill deer, but you'll be well served choosing from the above suggestions.

A 6.5 CM should be a fine youth gun, but it would be better if there were reduced recoil loads available. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any on my search for the CM; 260 Rem reduced recoil is not in stock. The 7-08 and many others have nice reduced recoil ammo. My full load 7-08 handgun shoots 120 gr bullets at 2700 (about what a reduced recoil will do) and it will kill deer just fine.

Good luck and keep us updated.
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