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Anectine arrows
Posted on 7/28/18 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 5:18 pm
As I sit here reading about succinylcholine (anectine) for an exam next week, it made remember hearing stories when I was a kid about people using it deer hunt. If I'm not mistaken I believe it was legal in Mississippi for a long time. I could use a couple good stories to distract me for a bit. Anybody ever use it? Got any tales of people who did? How did it work (I assume some sort of container attached to the broad head) and finally when exactly did it get outlawed? I look forward to hearing the stories
Posted on 7/28/18 at 6:12 pm to ctowntiger
It wasn’t illegal to use, but was illegal to possess. Or something like that. I’ve seen it do some amazing stuff. But I’ve also looked for deer when the shooter had a pod and never find them. It worked best when hitting meat. Gut shots didn’t seem to work out well. I used a pod a bit, but found good shooting and good tracking helped a lot more.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 6:20 pm to 257WBY
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It wasn’t illegal to use, but was illegal to possess
To my understanding at some point laws were placed to where Joe blow couldn't just go buy it, but if you were a medical professional and had access to it you could use it to hunt.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 7:11 pm to ctowntiger
My dad used it when he was a big bowhunter in the 70s. He still has an unopened box of the pods for nostalgia I guess. He told me that if you ever nicked your finger with a broadhead and that stuff got on the cut, you better have a buddy there to do CPR while the ambulance was on the way...
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 7:14 pm to ctowntiger
My dad and my uncles used it a lot in the 70s and early 80s. My dad said he hit a deer in the leg and it ran 40 yards and died. My mom had to bail him and one of my uncles out of jail two weeks after they got married lol. He hunted in the spillway around lottie. Hes got some awesome outlaw stories
Edit: my dad is an animal. My uncle told me my dad bought a recurve and the next day stood on a cypress stump in three rivers and killed a 7 point. Hes 66, benches over 200 for reps, and rides his bike about 100 miles a week. He could sit in front of wal mart and kill a deer.
He got lost last year and we could see his light wandering all over the woods all morning. He climbed a tree after daylight about half a mile from where he was supposed to be (two properties over) and killed this. We told the people whose land he killed it on and they thought it was hilarious.
Edit: my dad is an animal. My uncle told me my dad bought a recurve and the next day stood on a cypress stump in three rivers and killed a 7 point. Hes 66, benches over 200 for reps, and rides his bike about 100 miles a week. He could sit in front of wal mart and kill a deer.
He got lost last year and we could see his light wandering all over the woods all morning. He climbed a tree after daylight about half a mile from where he was supposed to be (two properties over) and killed this. We told the people whose land he killed it on and they thought it was hilarious.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 8:09 pm to ctowntiger
Seriously doubt that it would work as advertised, takes about 1.5mg/kg to really work.... Usually supplied in vials of 20mg/ml,,,,,,to sedate a 120lb deer (being conservative) you would have to deliver about 2.5ml directly into the bloodstream
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:01 pm to celltech1981
As appossed to the broadhead causing exsanguination? I’ve used this drug hundreds of times on patients intravenously, I seriously doubt dipping a broadhead in succs would be the primary cause of death vs. the hemorrhaging the broadhead causes.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:24 pm to Boston911
CRNA here. It does work. But the old guys used powder form and somehow coated the arrow tips in it. When doing inhalation inductions on kids, we have an im syringe ready to give to break a spasm while we put in the iv. So it’s works fast enough.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:31 pm to Success
Broadheads were not dipped. Anectine powder was loaded into pods behind broadhead. As arrow penetrated anima, the rubber sleeve on the pod would roll back releasing the anectine.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:32 pm to ctowntiger
I can rember my dad using it in the 80s. He killed some deer with it. He used a powder form that he would put in balloon necks that he rolled onto the arrow.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:40 pm to ctowntiger
my stepdad used them all the time this was in the 90s would put the powder in a balloon on the shaft right behind the broadhead
he was a genuine POS outlaw though
he was a genuine POS outlaw though
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:43 pm to Boston911
The pod is a little chambered washer the goes on the arrow with a condom type thing over it that unfolds when the animal is hit. Idk what the dosages are but it kills
My ex is a vet and she told me that it the effects are worse on some animals than humans. It makes the deers muscles spasm out and they can't breath
My ex is a vet and she told me that it the effects are worse on some animals than humans. It makes the deers muscles spasm out and they can't breath
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:01 pm to celltech1981
As a kid I remember people talking about using the pods. The question I never asked was if you poison the deer to kill it is the meat still OK to eat? That was always a concern of mine but we didn't bow hunt so not to big of a deal back then.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:13 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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The question I never asked was if you poison the deer to kill it is the meat still OK to eat
Poison is the wrong word, Succinylcholine is a widely used drug in hospitals. It acts by depolarizing an thereby relaxing muscle. It's very fast acting and and degrades very quickly, so yes it's safe to eat.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:24 pm to ctowntiger
I remember when I was a kid my dad had just started bow hunting (early 80s). Someone he worked with used it and gave pop some to use. I remember him making my mother and I go into the back of the house while he made the pods up one night because he was scared it may harm us. Years later I talked to him about it and he said he was on his way out of the woods after his first hunt with it and threw them away. Said he was nervous all day toting it around and had enough.
Posted on 7/29/18 at 8:00 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
My dad said you only had to worry if you had a bleeding ulcer or some way for the ingested meat to contact your bloodstream.
Posted on 7/29/18 at 2:04 pm to celltech1981
I’m confused. We still use them in Mississippi.
They work great, they don’t run as far is all basically.
They work great, they don’t run as far is all basically.
Posted on 7/29/18 at 5:11 pm to ctowntiger
I refuse to comment because it might incriminate most of my old, old timer bow hunting buddies.
But, a few ways that it was used were in rolled up aluminum foil, balloons rolled back and even some condoms. It was in powder form and bought from vet supply places. It put them down quicker on marginal shots.
Or so I’ve been told...
But, a few ways that it was used were in rolled up aluminum foil, balloons rolled back and even some condoms. It was in powder form and bought from vet supply places. It put them down quicker on marginal shots.
Or so I’ve been told...
Posted on 10/5/20 at 1:50 pm to s14suspense
Bumping this old thread. Do people still use them? Where can you find these pods....asking for a friend...??
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