re: A hard question for "gun guys"

I was on board with the first couple of post...then I read BP's post. He makes a very good point.

I don't have children, but I can't imagine sacrificing protection of my own to save someone I dont know. I feel selfish and horrible saying that but I wouldn't.

It's complex to say the very very least.

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How in the hell can you kill babies!?

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What you got to understand is: you're not dealing with a you or a me. You're trying to make sense out of something that absolutely has no sense. No sense of morals, rights and wrongs, goods and evils,, Nothing... a complete waste of air. Stop trying to understand him, you never will..

The correct answer is remove your emotions and think about the good of society as a whole. If guns didnt exist would people have died today? Yes. Could possibly more have died? Yes. Does losing someone you love suck? Yes. Badly. But this is life and a parents goal is to prepare their children to take own responsibilities of life and make lthe world better for their children. Will removing guns do this? No.

Think about mexico where the drug lords and illegals run the show. They have these mass murders everyday. The people of those villages dont have guns, they have to stand there time and time again and watch loved oned get mowed down or beheaded. What stops that from happening here when we forfeit our rights?

I guess one thing that's bothered me all day is that never as a child did I ever feel unsafe. I have always had an idealistic view of my ability to protect my family because of that. I was watching this shite unfold today and just realized that no matter how much I love and protect him, this world is cruel and unforgiving. I just can't imagine.....

Yeah, I hear ya. It's one of those "big picture" moments.

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Ellis: Whatcha got ain't nothin new. This country's hard on people, you can't stop what's coming, it ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity.

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Old man at end of No Country For Old Men

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The old saying goes: "God, family, country." I feel horrible about today's tragedy and wish there were something I could do to go back and change it. That being said, family has to come before all the other people in the world combined. Without guns, I have no way to protect them and if you can't protect your family, does the rest really matter?

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f you could give up all your guns and never touch another one to bring just one of those babies home to its momma and daddy tonight, would you do it?

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In a New York minute. Wouldn't even hesitate thinking about it.

And finally a quality/thought provoking thread about this topic. I was worn out by all people coming from the OT and Political Board coming over to "our" board. (Sorry for taking ownership)

There were some great points made. BP suggested that he wouldn't do it because he didn't wanna give up his right to protect his family. Thats cool and I truly respect that. Don't agree, but that's because I have never felt so endangered that I needed a weapon. Who knows. Maybe my thought would/will change if circumstances dictated otherwise.

All I know is that I have been a freaking wreck today. Went and visited my kids and have been grieving for those families all day long. As a husband of a teacher and father of two children that age, I just can't imagine what those families are feeling this evening.

All I can say is that the streets of heaven are too crowded tonight. God bless their innocent souls!

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I don't have children, but I can't imagine sacrificing protection of my own to save someone I dont know.

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In a heartbeat. I don't know any caring, feeling human who wouldn't. It's an impossibility though, so....