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Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:57 am to Grassy1
no handgun is gonna knock you off your feet. can you show me one that does?
hell a .308 at point blank range wont knock you down.
but it will put one bad arse hole in you.
hell a .308 at point blank range wont knock you down.
but it will put one bad arse hole in you.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Most pistols are significantly more accurate than the person holding them.
Yea, but you can say that about any gun. I think a Red Ryder is more accurate than I am
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Fact
Most pistols are significantly more accurate than the person holding them.
Speaking of accuracy, how far out would this Kel Tec sub 2000 be fairly accurate in a 9mm?
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This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 9:59 am
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Most pistols are significantly more accurate than the person holding them.
What he said.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:59 am to Grassy1
Well I can guarantee you a .40 won't do that do unless your planning on carrying around a blunderbuss that isn't a very realistic scenario.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:59 am to Langston
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I went with 9 for concealed carry, will have a 45 soon though.
G36 could have killed 2 birds with one stone
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:00 am to SenseiBuddy
Its safe to say youve never been shot or seen anyone shot. It doesnt take much to put most people down, not near as much as most people think.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:00 am to Boats n Hose
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but you can say that about any gun. I think a Red Ryder is more accurate than I am
Sorry that you suck at firearms.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:01 am to Langston
I'd like for all the 9mm haters to stand up and take one in the chest if you believe it doesn't have the killing power?
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:01 am to Dooshay
watched a video of a guy hitting a 4' target from 350 yards with a 10mm
Factory barrel and all. Needless to say. I want one
Factory barrel and all. Needless to say. I want one
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:01 am to Grassy1
quote:why? he said
Based on your argument, I'd guess you prefer a .22?
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the more holes you drill in him, and the bigger those holes are are the better.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:02 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Def impressive looking. Will give it a good look see when I buy one.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:02 am to Grassy1
quote:Yea but will a .40 really knock someone off their feet that much more than a 9mm?
Is it better to more holes in him, or to put a hole in him that knocks him back and off his feet?
I feel like this argument is akin to arguing deer hunting calibers, and people bring all kind of small details and differences in to argue one caliber over the other, long distances, etc., when in reality they're just gonna use it to shoot at deer 100 yds and in and either one will do the same shite.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:03 am to Boats n Hose
Yea. You can watch hickok45 wear out steel plates at 85 yards all day with glocks, which you'll hear people call inaccurate if you talk about them for more than a few minutes. Give that same person a custom built 1911 and I bet they miss just as many times with it as they do with a glock.
Bottom line is very few people can exceed the capabilities of the gun they have, much like you'll often hear people say "I need a rifle that I can kill a deer at 300+ yards with." I highly doubt that 95% of those people are capable of making a good shot at 300 yards with a custom built .308 range queen, much less a mule kicking .300 ultra mag.
I believe that when it comes to self defense pistols, you need to carry the most powerful round that you can effectively control and fire. For most people that's the 9mm, strictly because the low ammo cost will encourage them to shoot alot and become proficient with the gun they have.
Bottom line is very few people can exceed the capabilities of the gun they have, much like you'll often hear people say "I need a rifle that I can kill a deer at 300+ yards with." I highly doubt that 95% of those people are capable of making a good shot at 300 yards with a custom built .308 range queen, much less a mule kicking .300 ultra mag.
I believe that when it comes to self defense pistols, you need to carry the most powerful round that you can effectively control and fire. For most people that's the 9mm, strictly because the low ammo cost will encourage them to shoot alot and become proficient with the gun they have.
This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:03 am to Langston
I've seen a 7.62 round come in and pretty much annhialate a guys collar bone/trap area and it didn't knock him down 
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:03 am to Chad504boy
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I'd like for all the 9mm haters to stand up and take one in the chest if you believe it doesn't have the killing power
For sure Hell, in the leg.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:03 am to Chad504boy
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I'd like for all the 9mm haters to stand up and take one in the chest if you believe it doesn't have the killing power?
50 cent got shot 9 times with a 9mm and walked away.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:03 am to Langston
i dont think it was a question of what it takes to put them down, however it was a question of knocking them down with a bullet. i agree that getting shot means an immediate systems check. 
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:03 am to Boats n Hose
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Yea but will a .40 really knock someone off their feet that much more than a 9mm?
no.
and that's a fact, jack.
which is why this debate is really stupid.
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