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Posted by nismosao
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Found a place in chalmette that sells flats of vegetables plants at good prices. I’ll try to find the name.


When you find this, let us know.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Where do you guys buy started plants? Home Depot? I'm in N.O. so is Perinos a better option?


I'm on the northshore, but if you're willing to drive, O'Keefe's Feed and Seed in Covington has the best selection of plants I've seen other than Clegg's in BR. They're getting plants in by the day right now, but they have several different varieties of both heirloom and hybrid tomatoes, in addition to hot and sweet peppers. I was in there a couple of days ago getting fence posts and they got a huge shipment in of squash, zucchini, and cucumber as well. The plants are all locally sourced.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:39 pm to
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bluemoons


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O'Keefe's Feed and Seed in Covington


Thanks. My office is in Covington so I reverse commute 75% of the work week. I'll check out O'Keefe's as well as Jefferson Feed
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:57 pm to
It’s about the same level of difficulty, but starting indoors let’s you start earlier.

I reccomended soaking the seeds and topping the holes with the perlite again as well if you start outdoors.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:05 pm to
Roger. Just to clarify, I was excluding Home Depot or Lowes. They probably technically have more varieties than O'Keefe's, but they're all Bonnie branded plants whereas O'Keefe's/Clegg's source from independent growers. Nursery plants always seem to be healthier than those at Home Depot or Lowes too.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:14 pm to
There’s nothing wrong with the Bonnie plants. It’s just Lowe’s and Home Depot usually do a piss poor job of tending them.

If you were to go that route, inspect them very carefully. You don’t want to bring diseased plants back to your garden.

Definitely go the local nursery route if you can.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:21 pm to
Agreed. I actually took out a Bonnie reference in my post because I didn't want anybody thinking I was bashing Bonnie plants. I also think most Bonnie plants are at least regionally sourced.

You nailed it though - they don't take care of those plants. 90% of them are sick and look like crap.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:35 pm to
I bought some Bonnie's from Home Depot last week. They had just gotten a fresh delivery and they looked great. I was already there and it was convenient.

ETA: When I say fresh delivery, the Bonnie truck was there unloading them when I pulled up.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:38 pm to
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You don’t want to bring diseased plants back to your garden.


Pretty sure this happened to me last year
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 3:48 pm to
Bonnie's has a setup in Donaldsonville, so their plants don't travel too far.

They also sell on consignment, which is a big reason the big boxes let them go to crap. They have no investment in the plants on the racks.

If you've ever wondered why the plants you start don't look like their plants it's because of growth regulators. They slow down the vertical growth and make the plant get thicker, which is a more eye-appealing plant. It also helps them last on the rack longer.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:10 pm to
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If you've ever wondered why the plants you start don't look like their plants it's because of growth regulators. They slow down the vertical growth and make the plant get thicker, which is a more eye-appealing plant. It also helps them last on the rack longer.


I did not know that. How are they administered and how long does it affect the vertical growth?
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:28 pm to
Usually done as a drench. Their action is transient, so it slows them down in the initial stages to prevent leggy weak plants.

It's a common practice in greenhouses so that the plants won't shoot up to quick and there's also some data suggesting they actually improve yield by increasing chlorophyll production.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:10 pm to
I always wondered how they did that.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:45 pm to
Beaus feed and pets
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 9:03 am to
Here's some photos of what I've planted out so far. I only transplanted one cucumber. I'm going to transplant three more and direct sow the rest this weekend.

These are Mohawk peppers, Redskin peppers, and one Shishito pepper.



Bag tomatoes: 1x Large Barred Boar, 2x Cherokee Purple, 1x Purple Bumble Bee, 2x Sweet Million. There's also a Celebrity in the back there that I planted about a month ago, and an Anaheim pepper plant that I overwintered. One of my Sweet Million plants is looking kinda droopy. It got sunny the day after plant out and I didn't harden off as much as usual, so we'll see what happens with it.



This is my main box. I've got 2x Straightneck Yellow Squash, 2x Tiger Zucchini, 2x of the following peppers: Carmen, Corno di Toro Giallo, California Wonder, and Marconi, 3x Jimmy Nardello, 1x Hungarian Wax, 1x Jalapeno, 1x Poblano. Then 1 Large Barred Boar, and 2 dwarf tomatoes - Fred's Tie Dye and Sarandipity I think. Bought the Marconis and Jalapeno from the store. Everything else was from seed. The marigolds are for the bees because I don't have many. I plan to plant okra in April though so those may not last long.

I wasn't going to plant squash and zucchini again because of the vine borers but I like to eat it so much that I gave it a shot anyway.


Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 9:52 am to


That looks awesome. What kind of wood do you use for your boxes? My wife wants me to build an herb box. So I will eventually get around to doing that. Probably next month.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:24 am to
Thanks man. I just used regular pine. I stained the outside of the boxes when I built them, but it's worn off a good bit.

This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 10:26 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14729 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:15 pm to
I guess I need to start planning it out. She’s been on my arse.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Where do you guys buy started plants? Home Depot? I'm in N.O. so is Perinos a better option?


I never go to Perino's. They are priced for Metairie and are higher than Jefferson Feed and Bantings.

Jefferson Feed on Jefferson Hwy. is where I usually go, but will head over the river to Bantings for a bigger selection.

Home depot is high with their prices, especially when they are selling individual plants as opposed to the 4-6 packs of started plants.

Some things I buy from seed like beans, squash, cucumbers, okra, corn etc. for my summer garden.

Fall/winter garden will find me buying chard, lettuces, sugar snap peas, kale, carrots, beets, onions, turnips, etc. in seed form and directly sow them in the ground in late Sept./early Oct.

Things like collards, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, I'll buy already started.
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