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tigercross
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
Now the men. 7 individual medals for the US. Of the 53 remaining medals, 7 went to athletes connected to the US. As with the women, that comes out to less than 15%.

I'm not sure where the misconception that the US is some sort of training ground for foreign T&F athletes to win medals originated, but the data makes it very clear that is not the case.

100m - Gold lived in the US for 3 months as an infant if you want to count that. I'm not going to. US Silver. Bronze went to USC and lives/trains in the US
200m - Gold went to USC and lives/trains in the US. US bronze/silver
400m - No US medals. Bronze is a gump
800m - No US medals. Gold attended UTEP and trains in El Paso
1500m - No US medals. Bronze attended UNM and lives/trains in the US
3000m steeple - No US medals or connections
5000m - Silver attended Wisconsin and lives/trains in the US. US Bronze
10000m - No US medals or connections
110h - US silver. No other US connections
400h - US silver. No other US connections
Marathon - No US medals or connections
High jump - No US medals or connections
Pole vault - US silver, gold is a US citizen who lives/trains here
Long jump - No US medals or connections
Triple jump - No US medals or connections
Shot put - US gold/silver, no other connections
Discus - no US medals or connections
Javelin - no US medals or connections
Hammer throw - no US medals or connections
Decathlon - no US medals or connections


Keys Open Doors
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
Excellent research. About what I expected (20 percent or so). The Africans have minimal connections and same with most Jamaicans.

The largest contingent is probably non-Jamaican Caribbeans.

And besides Camacho-Quinn and Mondo, these are largely people who arrived here at 18 or so, not too different from our volleyball players who arrive in Italy or Russia at 22.


sugar71
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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Excellent research. About what I expected (20 percent or so). The Africans have minimal connections and same with most Jamaicans.

Kenyans , for example, mostly train at home & don't need the US. Many Kenyans however find an easier path to the Olympics by competing for other nations( 5 competed as Americans).








Keys Open Doors
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
Who besides Paul Chelimo, Bernard Keter, and Hilary Bor competed for the US?

This was actually one of the less naturalized teams from what I can remember of the past decade


TomRollTideRitter
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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tigercross


This dude shut this thread down.


tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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Who besides Paul Chelimo, Bernard Keter, and Hilary Bor competed for the US?


The two women marathoners who did not medal + Abdi in the men's marathon. Benjamin has previously represented Antigua internationally.


Keys Open Doors
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
Ah got it.

As for Rai, he did what Mondo didn’t, which is he switched nationalities and sat out from international competition when he realized just how good he was going to be.


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tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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This dude shut this thread down.


I have no idea what the numbers would show for other sports, but I would be surprised if they were meaningfully different. Certainly nowhere in the realm of the ignorance evidenced by the following comments:

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If you told me 75% of the overall athletes were affiliated with or trained in the US, I’d believe you.

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Probably all of them outside of Russia and China and South Korea.

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The US trains most worldwide Olympians with our massive University system that doles out International scholies like crazy for Colleges glory in Olympic sports.

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I would bet 80% of Olympic track and field athletes (basically everyone of any merit from Europe, N America, and the Caribbean), all have some connection to the USA, whether they trained and went to college here, or moved and continue to train here on their country's dime.

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Some sports like T&F, very much so.
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LSUtoOmaha
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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Probably all of them outside of Russia and China and South Korea


Yikes


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jlovel7
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Member since Aug 2014
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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I'm not sure where the misconception that the US is some sort of training ground for foreign T&F athletes to win medals originated,


For me I just felt like I heard it mentioned several times by announcers/media covering the games. So at least for me that's what sparked me to ask in this thread.


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Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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400m - No US medals. Bronze is a gump


Gardiner trains in florida. Everything else looks right though


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Old Money
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
So many have US connections. We should claim those medals too


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VerlanderBEAST
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re: How many non US athletes won medals from training in the US?
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I also have a sneaking suspicion that the reason our USA Wrestling program has become so successful now (basically everyone on the roster won a medal in Tokyo), is because not many international wrestlers have access to our country to train. Many of the big wrestling nations are eastern bloc, Russian, Cuban, Iranian, etc
9/15 is basically everyone on the roster?


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