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re: Woodstock '99: Were You There?

Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Unless I’ve got the concept of feminism totally wrong, a story of a woman being the hero of her own story (her empowerment) is the textbook definition of a feminist story.
I don't find a story about a woman who escapes confinement after being suspended from a ceiling, burned with a blowtorch, and raped to be particularly empowering to women, no.

You realize this is about a real 14 year old girl, right? I doubt she found the rape or the song particularly empowering even if Kurt embellished a little bit to make her seem more clever.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:10 pm to
TF is this sh*t
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:12 pm to
It was “inspired” by the real life event, but Cobain made it his own by making the character outsmart her captor (See my edit.) (In real life, it was less a clever ruse and more so that the victim escape while being transported by truck.)
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:14 pm to
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It was “inspired” by the real life event, but Cobain made it his own by making the character outsmart her captor (See my edit.) (In real life, it was less a clever ruse and more so that the victim escape while being transported by truck.)
Ok, man. Sure. Polly is a feminist anthem.

"we can escape rapists all on our own"
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:15 pm to
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Ok, man. Sure. Polly is a feminist anthem.



I’m willing to drop this discussion because you’re starting to use straw men.

I never said it was an “anthem,” just that it incorporates feminist themes.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:16 pm to
What you actually said was just as silly.
Posted by lowhound
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:25 pm to
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Lollapalooza in 93 and 94


Lollapalooza '96 in Nola with Metallica, Soundgarden, and Rage was the absolute baddest fricking concert I ever went too. Whole place was jumping when rage hit the stage.
Posted by scuppernong
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:58 pm to
Awful lot of JNCOs that year
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:08 pm to
apalooza '96 in Nola with Metallica, Soundgarden, and Rage was the absolute baddest fricking concert I ever went too. Whole place was jumping when rage hit the stage.
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I was at this show too. Probably the greatest show I’ve ever been to pound for pound per the entire lineup. It was just insane.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:34 pm to
The HBO Max documentary is terrible. It's a 2-hour lecture on white rage and #metoo.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35459 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:48 pm to
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The HBO Max documentary is terrible. It's a 2-hour lecture on white rage and #metoo.
It kept going on and on about how angry everyone was in the late 90's. I was 20 in 99 so right at the age of the kids at Woodstock 99 and that's not how I remember the feel of that period at all. Sure, there were some shitty bands but there was a lot of positive energy at that time too. I just don't recall anger as being the prevailing mood among most of the people I knew.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:53 pm to
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The spirit of that event couldn't be any more opposite from the original Woodstock.
well the idea of woodstock really isnt what woodstock was. The Legend is way bigger than what it really was.
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 1:36 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35459 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:56 pm to
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The Legend is way bigger than what it really was.
A product of Boomer's endless infatuation with themselves. We've all suffered enough.
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:01 pm to
I lived in upstate New York that summer and didn't even consider going.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:32 pm to
Were the off hours one of those things (like Mardi Gras) where it looks like absolute chaos but actually had a reasonable amount of order? Or was it just whatever and deal with it?
So hard to wrap my head around.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:35 pm to
I had to go to work and pay bills.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:41 pm to
I just watched this documentary. I knew it got wild, but I didn't realize just how insane it got. Women being raped, a riot broke out, people set shite on fire.

I was sort of confused because according to this board, that's behavior only black people do.
Posted by rebel cat
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:43 pm to
Eww
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Were the off hours one of those things (like Mardi Gras) where it looks like absolute chaos but actually had a reasonable amount of order? Or was it just whatever and deal with it?
So hard to wrap my head around


I remember it being crazy, but a reasonable amount of order. Safer than Mardi Gras for sure. The last night (after the shows were over) might have been different but we were already on our way back.
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