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re: Woodstock '99: Were You There?

Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:08 am to
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:08 am to
Nirvana was lyrically abstract. I remember no social justice messaging worked into their output.

They painted the grunge movement as some intellectual highbrow moment in time when in reality, that was a movement driven by angst and disdain, which was their narrative for the nu-metal movement. Pretty funny.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:12 am to
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Nirvana was lyrically abstract. I remember no social justice messaging worked into their output.



Cobain and Vedder were big into social justice causes. Off the top of my head, Nirvana headlined the first Rock For Choice concert, and he supported LGBT causes (I think his sister is lesbian/bisexual?).

Also, in terms of lyrics, “In Bloom” is Cobain lamenting that the “macho metalheads” have become Nirvana fans.

(Edit: Also some explicit feminist themes in “Polly”, “Rape Me”, and a few other songs.)
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:02 pm to
I predicted it was going to turn into a white male bashing session & I was right. Moby is such an insufferable tool to begin with so I knew he was going to blame everything on the evil white male along with every women interviewed.

The late 90's early-2000's was a strange time in music because you had the boy band/pop stars get huge at the same time as post grunge & nu metal. The backlash against boy bands & pop from rock fans was brutal & huge at that time & you could see it all over this doc for example when Dexter from the Offspring clubbed the Backstreet Boys mannequins at the beginning of their set. I enjoyed the doc but it had an agenda just like everything in our mainstream media today unfortunately.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:34 pm to
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And having Moby as a chief voice of criticism after he was relegated to the “Emerging Artists” stage (LOL) clearly having an axe to grind. Or a butter knife.



It was hilarious how offended he was over his name not being on the "Welcome to Woodstock" sign.

Dude is a fricking DJ and he acted like he's the fricking Beatles.
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
There was a Woodstock in 99? First I am hearing of this. 98-99 I was working about 80 hours a week on a big conversion project, I didn't get out much.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:13 pm to
There’s a boob in the third pic
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28062 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 4:16 pm to
Jewel’s performance of Who will save your soul was dreadful. A 3:55 song stretched to over 10 minutes with pointless delays and rambling even singing about cats meowing. She barely even hit the final crux of the song properly. She was either stoned out of her mind or trying way too hard to be super artistic, or both.
Wildly talented chick regardless but that sucked.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 4:35 pm to
Pretty sure she was……yodeling. And it was very awkward at best.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 4:48 pm to
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21 year old me was there. The most memorable thing to me wasn’t the fires/riots, it was Flea opening the Red Hot Chili Peppers set with a bass solo, but the damn sound was off.

Wasn’t it during their set that the sound tower caught fire?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 4:49 pm to
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The late 90's early-2000's was a strange time in music because you had the boy band/pop stars get huge at the same time as post grunge & nu metal. 


I hated it all the same.

They all looked interchangeable, all those guys in Linkin park could have been in a boyband..Eminem too, and they alllllll cared what people thought. No matter what their music said.

Eta

Especially Fieldy. Never seen success with such fear of public opinion.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 4:56 pm to
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Wasn’t it during their set that the sound tower caught fire?


It looked like it was after their set. The promoter asked Anthony Keidis to try to get the crowd to stop starting fires and he goes out there and they do a cover of "Fire" instead.

He probably thinks that was such a cool move on his part.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 5:01 pm to
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Nirvana was lyrically abstract.


quote:

Move in, now move out
Hands up, now hands down
Back up, back up
Tell me what you're gonna do now
Breath in, now breath out
Hands up, now hands down
Back up, back up
Tell me what you're gonna do now

Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (what?)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (come on)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (yeah)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'

Now I know why'all be lovin' this shite right here
L.I.M.P Bizkit is right here
People in the house put them hands in the air
'Cause if you don't care, then we don't care
One, tow, three times two to the six
Jolts in for your fix with the Limp Bizkit mix
So where the frick you at punk?
Shut the frick up and back the frick up
While we frick this track up



Imagine if Kurt Cobain had wrote that though. Suppose I'd better understand the suicide then..
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 5:15 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9515 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 5:30 pm to
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There’s a boob in the third pic





Give me a quadrant to narrow in on. Feels like I'm looking for Waldo.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22119 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:02 pm to
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I liked how they blamed white people for saying the n word while DMX encouraged the entire crowd to sing the song

If DMX wasn’t offended, who the frick is some random white lady to complain and judge about it


That's as far as I got before I turned it off to watch UFC Fight Night. The dude crying about this made me laugh. You have 250,000 people all having a great time, singing the song in unison, while the artist is also having a great time and encouraging them, and you want to pretend like this was the world's largest Klan rally? GTFOH.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57423 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:04 pm to
I would have loved to hear DMX’s opinion on that concert if he was still living. It would have been great
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28062 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Pretty sure she was……yodeling. And it was very awkward at best

She played “match that note” with the guitarist for a few minutes.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6526 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:30 pm to
I was 94, kind of. Was 12 and snuck in with my uncle. Walked around a bit. It was interesting
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:13 pm to
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while the artist is also having a great time and encouraging them
only because he’s being paid
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53407 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:37 pm to
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that was a movement driven by angst and disdain

And lots and lots of heroin.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35458 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:38 am to
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Edit: Also some explicit feminist themes in “Polly”, “R
What were the feminist themes in Polly? That's about a girl that was abducted and raped in Tacoma.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 8:40 am
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