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re: Why to believe in God?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:57 pm to Tigerroar73
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:57 pm to Tigerroar73
Why not believe in God?
I have always believed and always will. But for people who are on the fence, wouldn't you rather believe than not? Just to be on the safe side?
I have always believed and always will. But for people who are on the fence, wouldn't you rather believe than not? Just to be on the safe side?
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:59 pm to Obtuse1
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That is a less elegant rephrasing of Pascal's wager. The flaw I have always seen in it is it doesn't address real belief and the need for faith.
I've always preferred an alternative formulation of Pascal's Wager.
If there truly is no God, then everyone who faithfully lived their lives believing God existed will ultimately have the same amount of regret as the atheists: none.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:01 pm to Tigerroar73
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Only one God was crucified and rose from the dead. Belief, faith, and worship of Him costs you nothing, while turning away from Him costs eternal life.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:03 pm to Tigerroar73
"Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer" - Voltaire
("If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him")
("If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him")
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:05 pm to JEC119
That's called marcionism...really old.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:07 pm to N0T SURE
quote:Can't post on this subject.
N0T SURE
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:07 pm to JimTiger72
quote:This makes it sound like belief is a switch that can be turned on and off. You could say "better to live your life in accordance with Christian teachings" and be logically sound but you can't just say "Believe."
Better to believe & be wrong, then not believe & be wrong for eternity
I'm not Team Atheist, btw. Just always bothered by the silly suggestion to 'just believe.'
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:09 pm to troyt37
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Only one God was crucified and rose from the dead. Belief, faith, and worship of Him costs you nothing, while turning away from Him costs eternal life.
In an intellectual vacuum, the response to that would be "So?". What evidence does that bring to the table to prove the Judeo-Christian god is the God?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:09 pm to JimTiger72
The "one true god" isn't implying there are no other gods....its implying this particular god doesn't lie...aka is true....opposite is the implications behind false gods, as in decietful or telling lies. The Bible actually promotes the fact that there are many gods, but one most high God (el elyon). If there were no other gods there wouldn't be a first or second commandment.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:10 pm to Tigerroar73
I just try my best to be a good person. I don’t find myself praying all that often
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:11 pm to Tigerroar73
Atheist Board
:circle jerk there:
:circle jerk there:
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:13 pm to northshorebamaman
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This makes it sound like belief is a switch that can be turned on and off. You could say "better to live your life in accordance with Christian teachings" and be logically sound but you can't just say "Believe."
That is a more elegant or at least better explanation of the issue I have with Pascal's wager.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:20 pm to Obtuse1
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In an intellectual vacuum, the response to that would be "So?". What evidence does that bring to the table to prove the Judeo-Christian god is the God?
That could be quite a long answer, better suited for those with a better knowledge of scripture, but I'll say this: In human form, God lived on this earth roughly 2000 years ago, yet here you are 2000 years later, posting about Him on a message board. Billions of people around the world believe in Him and His message. That cannot be said for anyone else in earth's history.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:20 pm to Mr Roboto
I used to think that just being a good person would suffice for me to get to Heaven, but after becoming a Christian I now know that is not true. The ONLY way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. No shortcuts, no saints, no Mr nice guy. Jesus only. If you just look around you or do just a little research, it is so evident that there is a God.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:23 pm to Burger55
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Not wanting to follow God's laws is easier than following them.
FIFY
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:23 pm to Tigerroar73
For anything inside space, time, and matter to exist it must be one of three things:
1) Eternal
2) Self-Created, or
3) Created by something that is eternal
Nothing that exists (even time) is eternal, there is an originating event of some sort - ie the Big Bang.
Nothing is entirely self-created - all existence depends in some way on an external source.
So then, for anything to exist - even you and I - we must recognize we were created by something that is eternal, which is God.
This is not some sort of faith-based teaching or religious viewpoint but a basic fact.
1) Eternal
2) Self-Created, or
3) Created by something that is eternal
Nothing that exists (even time) is eternal, there is an originating event of some sort - ie the Big Bang.
Nothing is entirely self-created - all existence depends in some way on an external source.
So then, for anything to exist - even you and I - we must recognize we were created by something that is eternal, which is God.
This is not some sort of faith-based teaching or religious viewpoint but a basic fact.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:24 pm to Tigerroar73
2 Commandments
1. Do Good
2. Be Good
Any benevolent higher power would deem you "good" despite what you do on Sunday AM.
Just my opinion
1. Do Good
2. Be Good
Any benevolent higher power would deem you "good" despite what you do on Sunday AM.
Just my opinion
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:25 pm to Cool Hand Luke
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If you just look around you or do just a little research, it is so evident that there is a God.
This. I can't imagine anyone who has ever sat in a tree stand in the pitch black and watched the world wake up around them could ever question if God is real.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:26 pm to troyt37
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God lived on this earth roughly 2000 years ago, yet here you are 2000 years later, posting about Him on a message board. Billions of people around the world believe in Him and His message. That cannot be said for anyone else in earth's history.
Outside of the plural of billions, the previous argument is better for Hinduism. Hindu gods came and lived on Earth at times the religion is more than twice as old as Christianity and over 1 billion people believe in it.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:26 pm to Tigerroar73
If you believe and you end up being wrong? Ok
If you don't believe and end up being wrong? Insert oof gif
If you don't believe and end up being wrong? Insert oof gif
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