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re: Why is weed still illegal?

Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23057 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:20 pm to
Drugs are a super pandemic.....we dont need to legalize anything!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292770 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:22 pm to
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Drugs are a super pandemic...


I don't have an issue with people choosing to use drugs. The illegal nature of the trade is as dangerous as the drug itself, and more expensive.

Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1736 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:27 pm to
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Republicans must be in control of your state legislature.


Cant get much more red than okieville.

They are the wild wild west when it comes to cultivation rules/licensing.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2691 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:42 pm to
Weed is illegal at the federal level until you can do a limited invasive instant testing method that can be done on the roadside by an officer or at the emergency room to determine if the individual is or is not at that specific instance is under the influence at a set cutoff.

With alcohol, there is a limit and being over that limit then limits the insurer's liability (both vehicle and worksman comp). Most opiates are going/no go from a liability standpoint and have a short shelf life in the body from a testing standpoint. THC does not.

How do you determine if Johnny fell off the ladder because he was stoned at work vs being stoned last night? How do you figure out if Jane crashed the car because she was just a shitty driver or was stoned at the time?

Fix the testing issue, and I am all for it. For someone what grew up in construction, the inability to deal with the liability issue is terrifying and as such its legalization in a nonstarter until it is resolved.
Posted by TruBrew
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2019
2261 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:45 pm to
This is conflicting for some on here for certain reasons...
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52678 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:48 pm to
People don't wreck cars and fall of ladders high lol, it's not like being drunk
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:04 pm to
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But I don’t get the horrible danger of benzos, though I know it exists. 
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What am I missing about Benzos?
they can be beneficial to some, especially in low doses. To be matter of fact, no one is supposed to use them for long term. They're meant for short term usage, the addiction your brain feels in withdrawal is worse than opiates. Heavy usage withdrawal can kill you, which I almost found out. Combined with alcohol or opiates, they can kill you as well. Long-term treatment with benzodiazepines has been described as causing impairment in several cognitive domains, such as visuospatial ability, speed of processing, and verbal learning. Increased risk of dementia is another major concern with long-term use of benzos, being the chemistry is changed in your brain permanent cognitive damage can occur. Alprazolam is the most toxic out of the benzos, I think Diazepam may be the least.



Benzos are a legit poison IMO
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2464 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:25 pm to
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A requirement to be employed at a lot of places, is to have zero traces of marijuana in your system


You should start your own business, and hire nothing but pot heads.

Maybe then you’ll see why most employers weed out these applicants.


Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25771 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:26 pm to
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Why is weed still illegal?


Because you don't touch yourself at night.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:33 pm to
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People don't wreck cars and fall of ladders high lol, it's not like being drunk


“The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) says in a news release that crash rates spiked with the legalization of recreational marijuana use and retail sales in California, Colorado, Nevada, Oregon and Washington. “

“THC disrupts coordination and balance by binding to receptors in the part of the brain that regulates balance, posture, coordination, and reaction time. Therefore learning and doing complicated tasks, like driving and participating in athletics, are affected.”
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2464 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:37 pm to
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People don't wreck cars and fall of ladders high lol, it's not like being drunk


You really are retarded.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:44 pm to
As big of a head as I am, ill say people shouldn't drive while smoking.

No sense in smoking, drinking, etc when driving. Same goes for cell phones. Need more people paying attention while driving a vehicle nowadays
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17364 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:48 pm to
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and participating in athletics, are affected.”


A lot of professional athletes would have something to say about this. College athletes as well.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
61877 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:48 pm to
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they can be beneficial to some, especially in low doses. To be matter of fact, no one is supposed to use them for long term. They're meant for short term usage, the addiction your brain feels in withdrawal is worse than opiates. Heavy usage withdrawal can kill you, which I almost found out. Combined with alcohol or opiates, they can kill you as well. Long-term treatment with benzodiazepines has been described as causing impairment in several cognitive domains, such as visuospatial ability, speed of processing, and verbal learning. Increased risk of dementia is another major concern with long-term use of benzos, being the chemistry is changed in your brain permanent cognitive damage can occur. Alprazolam is the most toxic out of the benzos, I think Diazepam may be the least.


Awesome. What’s considered “heavy usage” and “long term?” And if you’re not having any noticeable side effects, why would you initiate stopping?
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15742 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:54 pm to
In Louisiana, it just makes too much sense for a broke arse state to do something smart. I could talk about this for hours but to put it short: special interest and police departments prevent it bc it would greatly affect prisons and number of officers busting people for bullshite (aka funding). Louisiana is too dumb to look at Colorado and how they were in a similar hole financially as Louisiana before they legalized it and within 2 years had over a $1b surplus. I also lived for 16 months in a recreationally legal state (Illinois) they taxed the frick out of recreational (like 40%) and people (myself included) still bought.

It’s literally too sane of a decision to legalize it but Louisiana as a state is too dumb and backwoods to do it until it’s federally legal and we will be behind the 8 ball again, like always. I’ve said for a few years to a close friend that’s a high power lobbyist about this and they even agree but too many people with money depending on the bullshite arrest to change Louisiana law.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:03 pm to
Because mechanisms are not yet in place to have control of every

Commercial aspect.

Growth, storage, packaging marketing and most importantly TAXATION
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 11:26 pm to
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What’s considered “heavy usage” and “long term?”
anything past 3 months, and I'd say maybe anything over 2.5 to 3mg a day. I know that 4mg a day is supposed to be a limit, and I got to where I was doubling that a day.

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And if you’re not having any noticeable side effects, why would you initiate stopping?


To me, it just wasn't a real solution to what I was dealing with. It was some heavy shite though, I was going through horrible surprise deaths back to back to back of people I was close with. I just wanted to sleep all the time. Figured, when I was asleep there was no danger to me or anyone else of me losing it on anyone. Which didn't work out cause I was legit crazy with all the xanax plus ambien in me at any given time. Was like trying to fight a cancer with anthrax in my case. At that time, I had enough money to where I didnt HAVE to do anything, my house and vehicles were paid off and I dont have any children so no responsibility to anyone else..which was also dangerous. Now, thats just with my situation which was a bad one..I'm sure its beneficial to some people in low moderation, as all people are different with different body chemistry. But the negatives heavily outweigh any benefits imo. I'm no medical professional, but I know many of them see it too.

Those withdrawals are no joke though, its horrible feeling like a slave to a chemical. I was awake for 9 days bedridden, sweating and shaking, tossing and turning hoping that I wouldnt succumb to seizures or some aneurysm or heart attack at any given moment at that point. I was feeling effects almost a year after I had stopped taking them.

I guess anything can be detrimental to you if you allow it to. Some things are just quicker than others. In retrospect, I've always been good with just weed. Had it been easily accessible in louisiana at the time (legal and quality like oregon)..id have so taken that over benzos. I've had friends die, throw their lives away or hurt others chasing alcohol, speed, or opiates and I could have been right there with them easily.

Eta

Now I'm wanting early 1990s Johnny's Pizza. A good meatlovers and mushroom or something

This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 12:39 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:15 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20170 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:31 am to
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People don't wreck cars and fall of ladders high lol, it's not like being drunk
I’d say you can’t possibly be stupid enough to think that, but I’d be wrong obviously.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40442 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 2:11 am to
Old Christians
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 2:12 am
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