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re: Why is weed still illegal?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:30 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:30 pm to Hot Carl
I get delta-9 caramels from Seventh Hill CBD. They have 30 mg of THC (about like sharing a joint with a friend) and are federally legal because the THC is sold by weight and caramel is heavy.
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:35 pm to sta4ever
I am a retired police officer, and I cannot give you a good reason it is illegal.
I can tell you alcohol has a lot more negative effects on a family than Marijuana, it's not even close. I have seen many, many families, mine included, destroyed by alcohol abuse
I can tell you alcohol has a lot more negative effects on a family than Marijuana, it's not even close. I have seen many, many families, mine included, destroyed by alcohol abuse
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:35 pm to Hot Carl
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we need to be proactive in understanding, educating on, and preparing for the potential consequences of doing so, both individual and societal.
:PicardWTF?:
Yeah, right, let's start being proactive with shite. That'll happen.
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...the other treats it like a cup of coffee.
I just meant the withdrawal effects aren't much worse than coffee. Withdrawal from cigarettes is forever, withdrawal from alcohol can actually kill you. Weed? Not so much.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:40 pm to sta4ever
Marijuana and the developing brain
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The team found that persistent marijuana use was linked to a decline in IQ, even after the researchers controlled for educational differences. The most persistent users — those who reported using the drug in three or more waves of the study — experienced a drop in neuropsychological functioning equivalent to about six IQ points (PNAS, 2012). "That's in the same realm as what you'd see with lead exposure," says Weiss. "It's not a trifle."
Posted on 7/13/22 at 4:53 pm to FredBear
Yeah but Trump never even argued for legalized marijuana the dude was a fairly standard Republican
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:03 pm to sta4ever
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Well then surely you believe that alcohol, nicotine, and tobacco should be illegal as well?
Correct.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:04 pm to sta4ever
Weed is illegal because its a proven justice industry cash cow and lawyers like to eat.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:05 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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again, no
I’ve been a daily smoker for like ten years, with some long breaks due to work/drug tests. It’s really not hard to quit smoking weed. Maybe a week of having trouble going to sleep but that’s it.
Congratulations
I have conceded it’s not physically addictive. And maybe I should rephrase how the psychological effect works on quitting. It may not be even be hard to quit psychologically, but it’s psychologically harder to find an incentive to quit and easy to fall into an unproductive pattern where all you do is get up, go to work, come home, get high, watch tv, eat, go to bed and do the same thing all over again and one day you suddenly wake up and realize 2, 3, 10 years have gone by and you haven’t done shite except survive.
And that’s probably fine for a lot of people. But it wasn’t for me, and I wasted some prime years of my life doing that shite. And so did a ton of my friends. I’m not saying everyone will fall into that pattern at all—most won’t—but it is easy to fall into and hard to find a reason to get out, and that should be acknowledged, again, so people can be educated enough to consume it responsibly. Because, whether you want to admit it or not—and I probably didn’t want to myself until I had kids and my perspective changed—it can be abused. And just because the consequences of that abuse may not be as destructive as abusing alcohol, pretending like they don’t exist doesn’t make it so.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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:PicardWTF?:
Yeah, right, let's start being proactive with shite. That'll happen.
It won’t, but it should. I’m telling you, I’ve read enough to know today’s pot is gonna have long-term effects on the mental health of kids who fall into the habit of daily use. And of course the easier the access to it, the more kids that will fall into that habit. And sure, we could just say “frick em, that’s on them” and be technically “right,” but a bunch of people with mental health issues running around is gonna be a problem for all of us to deal with, whether we’re the ones that have them or not.
I mean, we’ve seen how much the effect of the bullshite response to COVID has had on society in just a little over 2 years (Fauci is the 21st century’s Stalin/Mao/Hitler). Suicides skyrocketed. Opioid overdoses up exponentially. Unemployment highest since the Great Depression. Mass shootings with no apparent motivation. (Just to be clear, I’m contributing these strictly to mental health issues in general, not suggesting they were caused by excessive pot use).
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I just meant the withdrawal effects aren't much worse than coffee. Withdrawal from cigarettes is forever, withdrawal from alcohol can actually kill you. Weed? Not so much.
I completely agree with you on this and have gone out of my way to try to make it clear. But the question posed in the OP is “Why is weed still illegal?” and I’m just arguing that the main reason is the overall lack of honesty on both sides. Granted, I’ve focused on the lack of honesty regarding the physical effects being grossly over or under exaggerated. But obviously there are other areas of dishonesty keeping it from being legalized everywhere too, with money and politics being at the top as it always is. But pointing out the corruption of politicians aligned with the Big Pharma and Alcohol lobbies seemed unnecessary.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:01 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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I am a retired police officer, and I cannot give you a good reason it is illegal.
I can, and you’ve actually given it yourself here:
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I can tell you alcohol has a lot more negative effects on a family than Marijuana, it's not even close. I have seen many, many families, mine included, destroyed by alcohol abuse
It’s because this is the main argument people use. But while what you say is absolutely, 1000% true, it is an argument against alcohol, not for marijuana. And it’s not strong enough to change the status quo regarding it. Any argument for the legalization of marijuana cannot include alcohol. It’s got to be its own thing.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:11 pm to Hot Carl
No it’s an argument that alcohol being legal and marijuana not is absurd given the facts. Few people are “pro drinking alcohol”, they just think it shouldn’t be illegal, and if it’s not then it’s hypocritical as shite to even imply that weed should be.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:18 pm to Hot Carl
Making weed legal would actually cut down on crime and also we would have a safer product on the streets
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:20 pm to sta4ever
The same reason why the political class and half this country supports vaccine mandates: big pharma's profit margin.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:32 pm to Hot Carl
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I’ve read enough to know today’s pot is gonna have long-term effects on the mental health of kids who fall into the habit of daily use.
Then don't let them smoke it, keep it locked up..Same could be said about whiskey in a cabinet or beer in the fridge, cigarettes in a pack or ashtra.. which was easily accessible.
Main thing that keep kids away from alcohol use is the taste. Imagine if it tasted like an A&W cream soda? Or better yet, a Barqs..
I'm not just saying it because I made a fortune in the industry. I've always been an advocate. First time I ever smoked was before I was a teenager, near Johnny's pizza in Monroe, LA...and I remember that pizza being killer that day.
The worst thing I was ever given, was a prescription with my name on it to 1mg Xanax and Ambien at the same time. I burned so many bridges and got myself into a Walter White Season 4 & 5 stress level. Going on 5 years of being clean from all that this September. Quit cold turkey, and those withdrawals were a living nightmare.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:52 pm to SEClint
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Then don't let them smoke it, keep it locked up..Same could be said about whiskey in a cabinet or beer in the fridge, cigarettes in a pack or ashtra.. which was easily accessible.
Fair enough. And I’m not even saying that. I’d be fine with parents being educated enough to educate their kids in order to make good choices. I’m all about freedom of choice and legalization, but the hard core legalization proponents poo poo the risks or deny them altogether so that a lot of people aren’t aware of the risks prevalent now that didn’t really exist when everybody was just smoking schwag. Anyway, I’m tired of this topic.
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First time I ever smoked was before I was a teenager, near Johnny's pizza in Monroe,
Original by NLU or the one on McKeen?
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and I remember that pizza being killer that day.
Johnny’s pizza is killer every day, you don’t need to be high.
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The worst thing I was ever given, was a prescription with my name on it to 1mg Xanax and Ambien at the same time. I burned so many bridges and got myself into a Walter White Season 4 & 5 stress level. Going on 5 years of being clean from all that this September. Quit cold turkey, and those withdrawals were a living nightmare
I’m interested in this story and would maybe like to ask you about it off here. Post your email and delete after I get it?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:57 pm to sta4ever
municipal revenue
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:02 pm to Hot Carl
quote:the one by Neville. If I recall correctly it was also near a blockbuster video and I think a brookshires grocery store. That was so long ago I may be mistaken, I had family all over the state so feel like I saw a lot of louisiana back then.
Original by NLU or the one on McKeen?
quote:it was soo much better imo back then, it was like more care got put into everything.
Johnny’s pizza is killer every day, you don’t need to be high.
quote:can ask me on here, im open about former substance use. Those are about as far as it went with me, but it was for years. I cant take opiates luckily for me, or id probably be a corpse somewhere had I treated thrm the same way.
I’m interested in this story and would maybe like to ask you about it off here.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:17 pm to SEClint
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the one by Neville. If I recall correctly it was also near a blockbuster video and I think a brookshires grocery store. That was so long ago I may be mistaken,
No, you’re right. It’s the one off McKeen. Which is where I lived for a lot of my pothead days, so Johnnys being right there was clutch. We absolutely crushed that sooooo many times.
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can ask me on here, im open about former substance use. Those are about as far as it went with me, but it was for years. I cant take opiates luckily for me, or id probably be a corpse somewhere had I treated thrm the same wa
I hate opioids—make me itch and nauseous. And constipated beyond belief. Probably for the best for me too as I don’t even like to take them post surgery, much less recreationally. But I don’t get the horrible danger of benzos, though I know it exists. Jordan Peterson says they almost killed him in the past year or something. I’ve found them extremely beneficial for anxiety. Basically substituted them for alcohol, which has been a game changer. Still drink socially a couple times a month, but don’t feel like I “need” to to relax. And I had to give up weed a decade ago because it was giving me more anxiety than taking away. What am I missing about Benzos? Are they fricking me up without my knowing?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:20 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
Control. Tribes like to control others, doesn't matter if R or D.
If weed is legal, they'll find other carrots to hold above your head.
If weed is legal, they'll find other carrots to hold above your head.
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