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Why are nanochips not produced in the US at all?

Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:42 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:42 am
We as a nation are almost totally dependent on Taiwan and South Korea for a technology invented in the US.
A Texas Instruments engineer leaves TX and goes on to start a company that makes 90% of the world's nano chips. TSMC's chips are needed to fly the F22, F35 but also the SU57 and China's new 5th generation fighters.

While we read stories about US engineers designing 4nm chips and now 2nm chips they are all made by only TSMC or Samsung.

I really think if ANY industry needs government support and capital to start up. It's to restart the dead US chip manufacturers. TI, Intel the ones who used to lead the world in chips.

Now we are one Chinese invasion away from having no chips for our ... everything.



Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:43 am to
It makes no sense honestly. Something so important should be sourced here. I assume it’s due to cost?
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:44 am to
Same for tortilla chips.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:44 am to
Capitalism?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38636 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:45 am to
quote:

U.S. president Joe Biden signed the CHIPS and Science Act of 2022 into law earlier this week after the bill received broad bipartisan support in the House and Senate. The H and I in CHIPS stand for “Helpful Incentives,” hinting at the main component of the initiative: $52.7 billion in public subsidies.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:49 am to
Some state of the art factories are being build in the USA now.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:49 am to
quote:


Now we are one Chinese invasion away from having no chips for our ... everything
All the vaccinated have them.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19493 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:51 am to

The Nanos would call it cultural appropriation if we started making their chips.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:53 am to
US big people. Big people no need nanochips. Big people need big chips #cheesediplife
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:54 am to
We have very little rare earth minerals. And only one processor that last I read may or may not be running.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30017 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:54 am to
quote:

nanochips
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9561 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:54 am to
Because Gender Studies degrees don't qualify for real jobs that actually produce shite.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:55 am to
quote:

TSMC's chip


The Arizona plant is expected to be operational in 2024

Texas Instruments expects their's to be operational in 2025
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:56 am to
Quit crying
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113890 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:08 am to
I googled this because I was curious after seeing this thread.

In February, the House passed a bill to boost computer chip production in the US.

ABCnews.com

But isn't there some natural resources that go into chips that are not available in the US (of course they can be shipped here)? But I guess its a product of the global market, which isn't always the best idea.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1693 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:11 am to
We outsourced the manufacturing for chips for the same reason we outsource anything - cost.
Posted by tigervetatsea
Member since Sep 2022
89 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:40 am to
free trade caused by labor unions demanding too much money (in the eyes of corporations). same reason Walton bribed lawmakers into helping him get all his crap made in Mexico and Asia.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8633 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:49 am to
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Capitalism?

Globalism?

Credit to conservatives: while they would use use government like leftists though not as much nor for as destructive or nefarious purposes, the populist/libertarian conservatives would use government to protect and foster American industries and workers.

We recently had a president who did just that...
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:51 am to
They are building huge microprocessor plants in Arizona, Texas, and Ohio. They were encouraged to be brought on shore during the Trump admin.

No idea if they are nanochips though.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:52 am to
Does Taiwan have those resources or do they import them? Taiwan has a high standard of living. It's not really a sweatshop nation.

The Cosmonaut's rant in Armageddon makes more sense to me now.

Both our nation's top components are dependent on Taiwan.
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