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re: When does the next Louisiana lockdown start?

Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Day 216 — when was day 1? March 15 or so right?


Wednesday March 11th was the last time I was allowed to see Pops
They called Thursday morning saying no more visitors
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:07 pm to
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They don't have a fricking clue what to attribute any spike to....they just make it up right out of thin air.



This. They say, "Well the people aren't listening, and shame on you peons. Now the beatings will continue until morale improves." Yet they have ZERO factual evidence of what is causing the spread.

And you know what is causing the spread? NOTHING. More testing. This virus is mostly harmless for ALL. If you are immunocompromised you should self isolate. If you are elderly, you're chances of survival drop to 96%. If you are a normal person, your chances of survival, if you get it, is 99%.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:07 pm to
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ou don't get that a Democrat governor drunk on power, who has stated many times he wants federal aid, and hasn't budged on lockdowns because he hasn't gotten federal aid, will continue to lockdown in the hopes of a Democrat President getting in office, and thus having a greater chance of receiving federal aid?

You are naive.


the same Democratic governor that didn't move us to lockdown when we had double the cases and hospitalizations in July when we were still in the middle of election season?

You may be right, but this feels like more fear mongering than anything.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:09 pm to
I'm on the horn with GOHSEP right now.


We've got a 211 in progress



Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Wednesday March 11th was the last time I was allowed to see Pops
They called Thursday morning saying no more visitors


Haven't seen my parents since early March. They self quarantined, without the need for mommy government to tell them to do so. My dad is immunocompromised. My parents have said they won't go out until given the all clear by my dad's dr. and that won't happen until a vaccine. My parents are doing what so many useless liberals and Karens do not do. Take accountability for your own health, and not demand others that are not affected by this virus to lock down with them.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:11 pm to
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the same Democratic governor that didn't move us to lockdown


You don't think we're on lockdown now? How many Louisiana restaurant/bar owners have you talked to?

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You may be right, but this feels like more fear mongering than anything.



2 more weeks/4 more weeks. How many fricking times have you heard this? Based on what fricking evidence are we locking down or restricting freedom of everyday people?
Posted by OldmanBeasley
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:12 pm to
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You may be right, but this feels like more fear mongering than anything.

His definition of lockdown is different than yours. He’s not talking about going back into a major lockdown like in April he’s just talking about more restrictions
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:17 pm to
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You don't think we're on lockdown now?


Oh ok. This is what y'all are doing. Y'all are changing definitions of words.

Just FYI, when people say "lockdown", they mean the forcible closures of all "non essential" businesses, like we had back in March and April.

Yes. We currently still have restrictions. Yes, I oppose those restrictions, but no, we are not currently still in a lockdown in which most people are projecting is coming in the next few weeks.



Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:23 pm to
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Oh ok. This is what y'all are doing. Y'all are changing definitions of words.


Any restriction to free trade/movement of our people is antithetical to our constitution. This is what i call a "lockdown".

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they mean the forcible closures of all "non essential" businesses, like we had back in March and April.


A public figurehead determining what constitutes "essential" vs. "non-essential" is antithetical to the United States Constitution. This is what i call a "lockdown".

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but no, we are not currently still in a lockdown in which most people are projecting is coming in the next few weeks.


Are businesses able to trade freely without overburdensome restrictions that is destroying businesses? Are public schools causing irreparable harm, moreso than normal, with their lack of teaching? Are there still "conditions" applied to private citizens in exchange for freedom to move about as one wishes?

These are things i call a lockdown. If you like, we can call them seizure of freedoms. Nothing less than the removal of all restrictions imposed by the Governor is acceptable.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2099 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:26 pm to
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notice how the local and National media no longer mention or show stats regarding deaths and rarely hospitalizations. It’s only case count % increase now, then they jump straight into a heartbreaking CV19 piece or how more lockdowns could be coming soon.


The other thing is none of the media ever highlights the continuing declining death rate.

Currently in Louisiana using the confirmed deaths / confirmed cases we are at 2.95% deaths as a percentage of total confirmed positive cases. That number has declined from a high of 7.07% on May 16th.

And this is at a time while the number of folks going to get tested has declined from the surge testing and positivity has risen. Although it's worth noting the current daily positivity rate they keep harping about is still below the total running positivity rate.

Posted by OldmanBeasley
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:27 pm to
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These are things i call a lockdown.

You can’t change the definition of a word to suit your preferences or views.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Any restriction to free trade/movement of our people is antithetical to our constitution. This is what i call a "lockdown".


well then we have been on lockdown for over a century then

you can have your own definitions all you want, just going forward, you should know that isn't the widely accepted definition and is only going to cause confusion and arguments going forward

but that is probably the point, so...

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52762 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:28 pm to
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You can’t change the definition of a word to suit your preferences or views.



Restricting businesses via executive orders with no end in sight via "2 more weeks" followed by "4 more weeks" is locking down business growth, revenue, profit, and wages. So yes, by definition, this is a lockdown.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94860 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:29 pm to
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well then we have been on lockdown for over a century then

you can have your own definitions all you want, just going forward, you should know that isn't the widely accepted definition and is only going to cause confusion and arguments going forward

but that is probably the point, so...

My uncle is a bar owner, I can assure you he would beat the shite out of your hipster arse if you told him we werent currently on lockdown

To be honest, he might beat the shite out of you regardless. Angry man in tough times
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9677 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:31 pm to
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you can have your own definitions all you want, just going forward, you should know that isn't the widely accepted definition and is only going to cause confusion and arguments going forward


Well said, but he’ll still come up with some emotional irrational argument against it
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Restricting businesses via executive orders with no end in sight via "2 more weeks" followed by "4 more weeks" is locking down business growth, revenue, profit, and wages. So yes, by definition, this is a lockdown.



curious as to why you didn't argue with the OP about this then?

or any of the other threads asking if we were moving to another lockdown?
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52762 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:31 pm to
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well then we have been on lockdown for over a century then


Mask mandates, overburdensome regulations on specific industries that make it nearly impossible to do business. These are LOCKDOWNS. Lockdowns of personal freedoms. Remove the regulations, and we are FREE. Thus free of the binds that Edwards has placed on us.

You only think lockdowns refers to total shutdowns. That is not true. There are varying degrees of lockdowns, as i have demonstrated. I know you like to play devil's advocate, but even you recognize this now.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52762 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:33 pm to
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curious as to why you didn't argue with the OP about this then?



Maybe, like you, he doesn't understand that a lockdown isn't necessarily only a complete shutdown.

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or any of the other threads asking if we were moving to another lockdown?


You want to know why i don't follow every thread regarding lockdowns on the O-T? Because i don't frequent this particular board very often.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83523 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Mask mandates, overburdensome regulations on specific industries that make it nearly impossible to do business. These are LOCKDOWNS. Lockdowns of personal freedoms. Remove the regulations, and we are FREE. Thus free of the binds that Edwards has placed on us.


well now you are changing your definition again

quote:

There are varying degrees of lockdowns


Obviously.

quote:

I know you like to play devil's advocate, but even you recognize this now.


I'm not the one being a contrarian here. I'm going by the widely accepted terminology we have had since this thing began.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Maybe, like you, he doesn't understand that a lockdown isn't necessarily only a complete shutdown.


or maybe, unlike you, he is just going by the widely accepted terminology that has been established during this whole charade?

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