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re: Watching TV and of course the Santa in Oreo’s Christmas commercial is no longer white
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:11 pm to chRxis
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:11 pm to chRxis
quote:yes, there is - that’s St. Nicholas the bishop from Myra - he is from history
there is no historical Santa
As for Santa Claus - it’s a legendary European figure that started in Germany/The Netherlands / that was based off of St Nicholas in name only but made to look like the people who made him up - they brought those traditions here to the USA bc at one time there were a hell of a lot of krauts
And that’s what the ‘traditional’ Santa comes from
So you are saying the same thing as me but trying to make room for the black Santa - which I really don’t care about - but you also have to see how it’s cultural appropriation
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:12 pm to chRxis
to clarify, i wouldn't either. Kind of like wearing a mask in 2022, I’m just secretly judging them.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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So you are saying the same thing as me but trying to make room for the black Santa
b/c there is ABSOLUTELY room for a black Santa... he's a fricking made up character, not a physical, biographical representation!! what is hard to understand about that??
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which I really don’t care about - but you also have to see how it’s cultural appropriation
ALL versions of Santa, from here in America to other countries, are cultural appropriations! How do you NOT know this? different cultures have their versions of Santa, and I can promise you, not all countries have a fat arse white dude in a red suit as Santa... so, yes, ALL versions of Santa are derived from the cultures they exist in... we just happen to have various cultures here in the great melting pot of America, and no one culture should have exclusive claim to what skin color a fictional character is, realistically...
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:24 pm to chRxis
and it's kind of funny how we've had all sorts of fictional characters dressed up as Santa, like Mickey Mouse, Kermit the Frog, etc), no one says shite... we've had Santa portrayed as drunk in Bad Santa and even this year as a killer, no one says shite... but let Santa be black, and people start losing their shite...
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:42 pm to chRxis
who is “losing their shite” ?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:04 pm to Klark Kent
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who is “losing their shite” ?
ok, that may be a bit much, but the point still remains
Posted on 12/4/22 at 3:29 pm to Klark Kent
quote:That's kind of what Santa is all about, but I don't see any here. Did I miss some black cultural cues in this commercial?
seems like a touch of cultural appropriation to me.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:23 pm to Korkstand
so, this isn’t cultural appropriation. but if you and I opened a Taco stand or a Soul food joint. How do you think the purple haired suburban white women would feel about that?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:28 pm to SPEEDY
Why do you care?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:43 pm to Klark Kent
I don't much care how a purple haired white woman would feel about me serving mexican or "black" food (I also don't care what she thinks about Taco Bell), and I think mexicans and blacks would be honored/flattered that I like "their" food so much. Or maybe they would laugh at my attempt at copying their food. 
There's nothing insulting about any of that, nor does it take away from the culture from which it was derived. Same goes for black Santa.
There's nothing insulting about any of that, nor does it take away from the culture from which it was derived. Same goes for black Santa.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:43 pm to Korkstand
exactly, but you know the 2 scenarios are treated completely different if you are not being disingenuous.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:33 pm to Klark Kent
quote:Based on this thread, you are correct. I know plenty black people and I can't think of a single one who would get mad if I opened a soul food restaurant. I think most of them would even come try this white boy's take on it. But make Santa black and some white folks don't like it at all. I can think of a few in my extended family who get their panties in a bunch over it.
exactly, but you know the 2 scenarios are treated completely different if you are not being disingenuous.
But I guess you feel it goes the other way more often?
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:59 pm to SPEEDY
Yes and according to 90 percent of commercials there are no same race couples anymore.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:36 pm to TBoy
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Who cares?
Standard answer for wokeness for the sake of wokeness. No other reason.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:09 am to Korkstand
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Based on this thread, you are correct. I know plenty black people and I can't think of a single one who would get mad if I opened a soul food restaurant. I think most of them would even come try this white boy's take on it. But make Santa black and some white folks don't like it at all. I can think of a few in my extended family who get their panties in a bunch over it.
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if you are not being disingenuous.
welp.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:22 am to Oates Mustache
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St Nick was a real person, dipshit.
According to a book filled with fairy tales…
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:50 am to SPEEDY
At Disney World last year they had a black Santa in the parade. Black dude with his family next to me said (unprovoked and loudly) “My kids know Santa ain’t black!” He was legit pissed.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:04 am to Klark Kent
quote:Your perception and lived experience is correct and valid while mine is not. Also this 9 page thread full of white folks complaining about black santa is an illusion, while the purple haired white woman complaining about a white dude with a taco truck is most definitely real.
welp.
And there is no way that you've been led to believe that "the others" behave a certain way in order to justify your own behavior and feelings.
I've got it all straight now thanks
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:12 am to SPEEDY
The left will slowly and methodically dismantle every beloved tradition we have in the United States.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:14 am to kcpizzle
yep, and the Korkstands of the OT and the Left will be here to tell us, “why does it matter? why do you care? what’s the big deal?”
because he’s a good little boy
because he’s a good little boy
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:15 am
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