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re: Washington Post settles Nicholas Sandmann defamation lawsuit

Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:02 pm to
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That kid is going to get 9 figures by the end of this over a Native American beating a drum in his face. Isn't this just a great country?

That wasn't what it was about. He would not have gotten anything if that was it. But the MSM lied by showing partial film; gave the impression that he, the victim, had instigated this; and spurred on an internet mob of leftist snowflakes who demeaned and threatened him.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:02 pm to
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that much money at that age...
How much money did he get?

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Invest wisely and live like he only has $1m.
He may not even have $1 million.

Does anyone know what he settled for?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:04 pm to
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The amount is noticeably absent from the articles.


Settlements have nondisclosure agreements in them. It may eventually leak but it will take some time.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Does anyone know what he settled for?


That's confidential. I'm guessing somewhere between 5-10% of the 250 mil they sued for.
Posted by Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:13 pm to
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All rumors indicate it was at least 8 figures. 10%/25 million is likely what he's getting.


That's a good guess, Baw. I am guessing 'bout tree fiddy but neither of us really knows.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:20 pm to
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That's confidential
That was my point. Plenty in here assuming the kid has $250 million or something resembling that.

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I'm guessing somewhere between 5-10% of the 250 mil they sued for.
We can all guess, but none of us really has much of a clue.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21287 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:09 pm to
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And how was it proven that the papers actually KNEW he wasn't taunting him and decided to lie?


I believe that burden of proof is only required when an elected official is suing for defamation.

I believe if you publish any defamatory article about a private citizen, you will likely lose a defamation case in the court of law. It doesn't matter if you knew it was false or not. Journalists are expected to do their due diligence before publishing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:10 pm to
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We can all guess, but none of us really has much of a clue.


It was a slam dunk case. They settled for at least 7 figures. You're crazy to think otherwise.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21287 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:11 pm to
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I don't agree that he deserves it (he deserves some, for sure), but they deserve to have to pay it.


How much is a life worth because you could argue what the media did to him was attempted murder.

They were absolutely destroying any chance that kid would have had at a good career and normal life. That could easily send someone into depression and end with suicide or being killed in the act of a crime just trying to survive.

I think anyone subjected to that deserves as much as what can be extracted from the offenders.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Plenty in here assuming the kid has $250 million or something resembling that.


He sued 8 major news networks...

I'm assuming they all are going to settle for around the same amount.

I would think it conservative to say he is going to wind up with a minimum $100 million.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
10868 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:16 pm to
Hookers and Blow.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29290 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:31 pm to
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Wow so you can get rich for threatening minorities now?



El gaucho off his meds again.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:35 pm to
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He sued 8 major news networks...

I'm assuming they all are going to settle for around the same amount.

I would think it conservative to say he is going to wind up with a minimum $100 million.
He lost the case on a motion to dismiss only to have part of it reinstated after amending the complaint. The most similar incident I can compare it to is the fake fraternity rape story published by rolling stone. That was initially thrown out only to be rvived partially by appeal. It settled for $1.6 million with 3 plaintiffs after the appeal.

That doesn't mean this one is identical in facts or results, but I think $100 million in settlements is extremely unlikely.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:36 pm to
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It was a slam dunk case.
The case was dismissed and had to be amended to revive just part of it.

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They settled for at least 7 figures. You're crazy to think otherwise
You don't really have a point of reference to make that statement. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:38 pm to
Full video was not released just an edited portion. Wapo ran with it not doing their research or intentionally cutting the video he and his other classmates were being taunted and were provoked by Black Hebrew Israelites. Full video shows this.

Whomever edited the video should pay full damage. The others were just reporting on what others were reporting on which isn't a good excuse but if all you have is the edited clip how are you gonna know.

They still should not have gone after kids anyways even if they were attacking without provocation.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:39 pm to
Holy shite. Dude should now be the country’s biggest fan of Native Americans. I’d let an Indian guy bang a drum at my face for like $20, much less the millions he’s getting. Lucky frick.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:39 pm to
They trashed his reputation for weeks nationally. They're fricked to the tune of millions.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:42 pm to
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They trashed his reputation for weeks nationally. They're fricked to the tune of millions.
A company doesn't typically go from winning a case on a motion to dismiss to giving it a huge settlement after the case is paired down and remanded. However, a plaintiff might take far less than you might expect after seeing that zero is a real possibility.

Because it is confidential, we may never know. It could be a big settlement, but I bet it is much lower than people here are assuming.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88582 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:45 pm to
If zero was a real possibility, two major companies wouldn't have settled. He didn't seetle for peanuts.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:49 pm to
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If zero was a real possibility, two major companies wouldn't have settled
What? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Zero was certainly a real possibility. Especially after WaPo won it's initial motion to dismiss. While 0 was a real possibility, so was a significant judgment. In addition, the litigation process is long and expensive. A few hundred thousand as a cost of defense settlement for WaPo might have been enough for an 18 year old with multiple targets still left.

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He didn't seetle for peanuts
I didn't say he did.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 2:50 pm
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