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Walk In Freezer Questions

Posted on 6/3/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3399 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 2:58 pm
The poor woman that froze to death in a walk in cooler at Arbys recently got me to thinking about them. If you were to somehow disable the fans that are on the ceiling of these things, could you stay alive long enough for someone to come in to work and open the door? Would you have enough oxygen in one of those things to sustain you? Seems you could break off a piece of metal shelf support or something and wedge it in the fans somehow. Would this stop the cooling/freezing? Thoughts?
Posted by Viceroy_Fizzlebottom
Member since May 2019
273 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:09 pm to
Smash the fans with a case of fries (don't puncture lines), build a shelter from cardboard boxes to stay warm. Start looking for flaws, a window to smash or any way to puncture a breathing hole somewhere.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29860 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Seems you could break off a piece of metal shelf support or something and wedge it in the fans somehow. Would this stop the cooling/freezing? Thoughts?


maybe on some older models, but most models used today dont have open fan grills you can stick something through to stop the fans.

but yes, stopping the fans would stop the freezing, and there is plenty air to styay alive for 24 hrs at least.

there is no way to rip the wires out and even if you did you would most likely be electrocuted doing it.

every freezer has a release latch on the inside that works even if you outside latch is locked with the safety pin installed.

the ONLY reason she didnt get out, is she had to be already incapacitated somehow
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted by PerplenGold
TX
Member since Nov 2021
1165 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:34 pm to
Get a better job?
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5704 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:53 pm to
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but yes, stopping the fans would stop the freezing,

Why not just turn the thermostat up to shut off the compressor. Problem solved
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8303 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:54 pm to
If you can’t get out you will probably still die of hypothermia.

My chest freezer doesn’t thaw for two or three days with no power. Think about your freezer after a hurricane. There is a lot frozen stuff in a walk-in freezer. It’s going to stay cold a while.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8303 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 3:57 pm to
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every freezer has a release latch on the inside that works even if you outside latch is locked with the safety pin installed



An employee said that a screwdriver was needed sometimes to open the freezer. The latch was fricked up.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:02 pm to
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the ONLY reason she didnt get out, is she had to be already incapacitated somehow


Not if the release mechanism on the inside was faulty or broken. Do you really think a manager they shipped in would not know how the walk-in works?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63180 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:05 pm to
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An employee said that a screwdriver was needed sometimes to open the freezer. The latch was fricked up.


Unimaginable that a franchise would have that going on in this day and age.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15079 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:06 pm to
Frozen "Mushroom Cap" Handle Traps Worker Inside Freezer

The freezer door could not be opened because the push rod of the mushroom-cap handle was surrounded by ice and could not be moved without significant force. The freezer door was usually open while a worker was inside, so workers rarely used the mushroom cap. It had probably taken weeks or even months for dripping water to freeze inside the handle.



LINK
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18380 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:12 pm to
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The freezer door could not be opened because the push rod of the mushroom-cap handle was surrounded by ice and could not be moved without significant force. The freezer door was usually open while a worker was inside, so workers rarely used the mushroom cap. It had probably taken weeks or even months for dripping water to freeze inside the handle.


Sounds like another example of shitty management or maintenance.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8303 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Unimaginable that a franchise would have that going on in this day and age.


They also that a case of oil was used to block the door open.

The Circle K near my house refuses to fix their beer cave door. It won’t stay shut. Five years. While not life threatening it sure fricks up their beer.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15079 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Sounds like another example of shitty management or maintenance.


Every one of the threads about this have people posting it's impossible to get stuck in a freezer. There is a safety latch. A quick google will give multiple examples where the safety latch didn't work.

If it's impossible to get stuck in a walk in freezer. Why would American Cooler Technologies have a website with tips on how to survive a night in a walk in freezer

LINK
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29860 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Do you really think a manager they shipped in would not know how the walk-in works?


considering they are all uniform and identical mechanisms that just require pushing the button, anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant for 5 minutes knows how to use it. its like a fire exit door, all you have to do is push the lever, its not rocket science

as for it being broken, i didnt know about that because i wasnt interested enough to dig deeper than the headlines about it.

its something that she may not have known about that it was broken so the story does make more sense now as an accident
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2960 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:33 pm to
You can cut power inside the freezer by unplugging it.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29860 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

You can cut power inside the freezer by unplugging it.


not when you arre already locked inside it.

everything inside, by safety and FDA food codes, is sealed and not open to the air in any way or it would be a shock hazard in a wet sweaty cooler with water dripping everywhere inside it.

all electrical, by law, must be sealed inside conduit and water tight boxes

we arent talking about a chest freezer at your house, we are talking about commercial refrigeration systems that must meet safety and food codes
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33835 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:24 pm to
All of these walk ins have releases so a faulty release is completely plausible. Me, I'm either getting to the thermostat or destroying the fans itself. Makes me happy we have panic alarms in all of ours as well. At least until some employee thinks it is a power switch
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21341 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:35 pm to
We are not speaking of a cooler, we are speaking of a freezer. Ours was minus 20 degrees. You arn't gonna survive overnight inside no matter what you do. I always put a section of rebar down to block the door when I worked in one.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3937 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:45 pm to
Ours has alarm switches if you know where to look.
I always have my phone with me so I would just call the restaurant
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26961 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:57 pm to
I thought the same thing.

With metal shelves, I assume, and nothing but the rest of my life to work on it, could I disable the freezer? A vent or light? Something I could make short out?
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