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re: Undersea volcanic eruption in Tonga - tsunami hits - US West Coast warned

Posted on 1/15/22 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Fwiw that's Indonesia in those pics.


Then they should definitely already know better.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2126 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 1:51 pm to
https://twitter.com/akrherz/status/1482436390105272320

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15 minute pressure altimeter change via ASOS NWS/MADIS 5 minute interval data. Shows the shockwave from the #Tongaeruption , feel free to use as you wish.


click link for video...
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Walked right into this one.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53558 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Seems like it couldn't be that deep if it threw shite 20km into the sky. Or maybe it's very deep and it just had that much force.

At that point, the plume starts behaving more like a supercell thunderstorm. It actually develops an updraft with inflow and everything. That increases lift within the plume, making it easier to loft those particles to those heights. If we had good enough radar, we'd probably see actual rotation couplets withing the giant plume. We see them fairly often with wildfire pyrocumulonimbus clouds.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 1:59 pm to
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That was a pretty loud bang knowing they're over 600 miles away.


Could you imagine being 400 miles away from the volcano, on a ship in the middle of the ocean, had not heard anything about the eruption, out on the deck of the ship taking in a beautiful day...when that fricking sonic boom goes racing past you?

I bet that's a pucker moment wondering what that was and what might be following.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:00 pm to
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At that point, the plume starts behaving more like a supercell thunderstorm. It actually develops an updraft with inflow and everything

Ahh I see. Pretty damn cool.

I'd love to see the final energy estimates of the initial explosion and see how many nukes it would compare to.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36216 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:05 pm to
OG vid of girl filming tidal bore in Indonesia 2021 Just doing my good deed of the day.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:10 pm to
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Could you imagine being 400 miles away from the volcano, on a ship in the middle of the ocean, had not heard anything about the eruption, out on the deck of the ship taking in a beautiful day...when that fricking sonic boom goes racing past you

Some might have been closer than that
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98715 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:20 pm to
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A 6 inch high tsunami


6 inches, 60 feet, whatever
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
288 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:26 pm to
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At that point, the plume starts behaving more like a supercell thunderstorm. It actually develops an updraft with inflow and everything. That increases lift within the plume, making it easier to loft those particles to those heights. If we had good enough radar, we'd probably see actual rotation couplets withing the giant plume. We see them fairly often with wildfire pyrocumulonimbus clouds.


It's been a few years, but iirc from a class I took, the heat vaporizing water makes the ash column supersaturated as it rises, it gets past the freezing point, and ice starts to form in runaway reaction.

Same/inverse process as superheating water in the microwave, where dropping a spoon in it causes it to explosively boil.

The ice particles are then what sends the ash clouds from some lighting, to out of control.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8592 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:30 pm to
And the girl in that video is seen in the other video (same house over the water at left,) her chatter will eventually be translated, but she never realized the potential danger, did she?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53558 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:39 pm to
In regards to the lightning, that sounds pretty accurate. I was speaking more to the height of the plume and the conditions that got it there.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:45 pm to
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It's been a few years, but iirc from a class I took, the heat vaporizing water makes the ash column supersaturated as it rises, it gets past the freezing point, and ice starts to form in runaway reaction.


Yep.

Those ice crystals lead to charge being segregated in the cloud, building electric potential and boom.

or to put it another way...


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The ice particles are then what sends the ash clouds from some lighting, to out of control.


Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8592 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:57 pm to
The eruption lasted at least eight minutes.

Tsunami warnings for part of Japan warned of an eleven ?foot surge.


LINK

What I can't find is the aftermath:is the earth there still active with earthquakes? What is the character of the ash fall in Tonga? IS the cone building below the surface? Is it degassing? Which side of the trench is it and has any of the trench wall collapsed (which is what made the Indonesian quake so lethal when part of a plate pivoted and displaced water. IIRC)
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:07 pm to
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pyrocumulonimbus


My new word of the day.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42108 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:20 pm to
Flooding in Santa Cruz Habor:

Twitter Video
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59586 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:32 pm to
Brah.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:36 pm to
Tonga Toast at the Polynesian Resort is good
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98127 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:38 pm to
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What I can't find is the aftermath:is the earth there still active with earthquakes? What is the character of the ash fall in Tonga? IS the cone building below the surface? Is it degassing? Which side of the trench is it and has any of the trench wall collapsed (which is what made the Indonesian quake so lethal when part of a plate pivoted and displaced water. IIRC)


The eruption severed the undersea internet cable to Tonga so info will be sparse for a while.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80755 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 3:38 pm to
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A Tsunami is gonna travel across all that ocean to the west coast?



Surfs up in Aussie maybe


Here is part of California flooding from it

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WATCH: Santa Cruz Harbor filled with flood water after Tsunami waves hit California as a result of Tonga volcano eruption


LINK

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