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To what extent is gun crime a mentality/mindset?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:27 pm
"Poverty" often is used to help explain away gun crimes and murder, which is pretty lazy in my opinion.
Personally I think that the biggest factor is the "live by the gun, die by the gun" mindset. If gun crime isn't a mindset, then why do men commit 90-something percent of gun crime in America, even though there are just as many women living in poverty as men?
Also, if it could just be explained away by poverty, there are more Hispanics in the United States living in poverty than there are African-Americans, yet there are three African-American murders for every one Hispanic murder.
Personally I think that the biggest factor is the "live by the gun, die by the gun" mindset. If gun crime isn't a mindset, then why do men commit 90-something percent of gun crime in America, even though there are just as many women living in poverty as men?
Also, if it could just be explained away by poverty, there are more Hispanics in the United States living in poverty than there are African-Americans, yet there are three African-American murders for every one Hispanic murder.
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:28 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
It's the mindset of the weak minded, who can't let a show of "disrespect" go unpunished.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:33 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
Gun crime isn't a mentality or mindset. It's a choice.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:33 pm to brewhan davey
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It's the mindset of the weak minded, who can't let a show of "disrespect" go unpunished.
You typed out the magic word just then – disrespect. I was the only white boy in my 4th grade class and I couldn't count the number of times little black dudes would have a standoff or start scrapping because somebody disrespected somebody and nobody disrespects me.
They start hearing this messaging when they're little kids – it's all about respect, you can't let nobody disrespect you, you can't be a punk. And over time it leads to extreme insecurity and feelings that other people don't take you seriously enough and don't realize that you're a "man."
It's the reason why so many young black men don't smile and always look gassy and constipated in photos on social media. Must keep up appearances.
Then at some point guns become involved and they start listening to whack arse murder music, and the next thing you know there's a drive-by at somebody's momma's house.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:35 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
I think IQ plays a factor.
Lower the IQ, the more a person is likely to act on emotion rather than reason
Lower the IQ, the more a person is likely to act on emotion rather than reason
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:35 pm to MugMan
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Gun crime isn't a mentality or mindset. It's a choice.
That's pretty vague and could probably mean at least 5 different things and I don't know which one you're going for, but thanks.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:36 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
What about knife crime?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:37 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
Not sure I could have said it better.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:57 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
It's not poverty, whites across ALL income levels have a miniscule level of gun violence
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:01 pm to Strannix
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It's not poverty, whites across ALL income levels have a miniscule level of gun violence
The other thing is that 4-out-of-5 African-Americans don't live below the poverty line, yet every time an African-American dude carjacks somebody or murders somebody it's explained away that society failed him and nobody ever loved him and he was basically raised by wild dogs behind the projects.
In reality a lot of these dudes are just playing gangster and living out street boss fantasies even though they had big Christmases and always had the latest Playstation and Jordans.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:08 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
In other words..all together now class..it’s culture
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:25 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
Nearly 100 percent.
With the exceptions for crimes of passion, etc, most people who shoot others have no regard for human life.
I have long been of the belief that even attempted murder with a firearm, with potentially some narrow exceptions, should result in life in prison.
If you commit a crime with a firearm, even if you don’t use it, it should be a minimum 25 years.
Once you have crossed the line to shooting another person, you are not redeemable.
With the exceptions for crimes of passion, etc, most people who shoot others have no regard for human life.
I have long been of the belief that even attempted murder with a firearm, with potentially some narrow exceptions, should result in life in prison.
If you commit a crime with a firearm, even if you don’t use it, it should be a minimum 25 years.
Once you have crossed the line to shooting another person, you are not redeemable.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:29 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
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Also, if it could just be explained away by poverty, there are more Hispanics in the United States living in poverty than there are African-Americans, yet there are three African-American murders for every one Hispanic murder.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:30 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
I work with kids who commit a lot of crimes with guns. There is no thought that goes into the commission of the crimes. They act on emotion, mostly anger and revenge. Getting caught is not a problem. The juvenile court judge will not dole out any severe consequences. Even when locked up they can still access cell phones, social media, and drugs. Even if they kill someone they will be out in a few months.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:42 pm to LRB1967
They only reason I haven't shot anyone is I don't feel like going to prison.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:43 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
It's really a grindset if you think about it.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:49 pm to brewhan davey
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who can't let a show of "disrespect" go unpunished.
You misspelled "disrespeck." Gun crime is a product of people who don't have the mental capacity to control neither their emotions nor their temper. The easy access to stolen weapons takes this lack of mental maturity often to fatal levels.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:02 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
It's not a mentality issue, it's a cold decision to shoot another human being. If in self defense, it's adrenaline kicking in, if intent to harm, it's cowardice.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:04 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
I wonder if teaching young men how to fight might help. It used to be a pretty universal skill until zero-tolerance BS in schools.
If they knew how to use their fists maybe they wouldn’t feel the need to escalate.
If they knew how to use their fists maybe they wouldn’t feel the need to escalate.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:05 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
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