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re: This is why Black Americans dont trust the police

Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:06 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:06 am to
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Chicken before the egg theory

Blacks have more run-ins with the police, therefore statistics will show they commit the majority of the crimes.

Not really. LE typically concentrates where crime occurs. Assault, rape, robberies, etc occur independent of LE presence.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76290 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Looting a trailer park will do nothing for my plight.



At least you agree that looting improves nothing.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17104 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:15 am to
quote:

STFU dicklicker. What makes you an expert on the black experience with cops?




Well first of all, I'd like to point out that I never claimed to be an "expert." On top of that, I would reject the notion that one need be an "expert" to have valid and accurate observations of the matter.

And what criterion would you judge someone on to determine that they are an "expert" on the matter of police interactions with blacks?

That being said, as how I have read statistcs and studies from professionals and scholars and listened to both sides of the arguments from highly informed and experienced persons with these matters, I have exercised something called reason and formulated logical conclusions. That you seem to fail to understand how this process could possibly take place is a pretty good indication that you aren't exactly the kind of mind with an aptitude for objective analysis of political phenomena to begin with.

But I can more simply discredit you through mockery. So all those protesters who have destroyed property and looted prior to police investigations, with ignorant and false representations of the facts, and who peddle a notion that police are out to murder innocent blacks nationwide, are experts?
Posted by StarkRebel
Member since Sep 2014
2176 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:16 am to
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Because they statistically commit more crimes?


How dare you use stats and facts to back up your reasoning, damn racist arse.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58281 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:25 am to
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The cop is even using stereotype
Stereotypes are there for a reason.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:29 am to
83% of murders of white Americans are committed by white Americans. Why don't white Americans clean up their communities and speak out against all these senseless killings by their own race? If its good for the goose....
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:33 am to
You're wrong. Stop and frisk, judicial sentencing of longer terms for the same crimes compared to whites, DWB, the # of unarmed blacks killed proportionate to their population size, etc.


I've provided multiple studies and links that show this.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138065 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:36 am to
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the # of unarmed blacks killed proportionate to their population size, etc.


This stat is so toxic.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:38 am to
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83% of murders of white Americans are committed by white Americans. Why don't white Americans clean up their communities and speak out against all these senseless killings by their own race? If its good for the goose....




This has been repeatedly addressed. ALL people kill those they are around the most. Whites kill whites, blacks kill blacks, Asians do math.

Answer this, please. PROPORTIONALLY, why do blacks kill so much more than whites? WHY is that practically the default answer for blacks?

Does looting help your cause?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84350 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:38 am to
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83% of murders of white Americans are committed by white Americans. Why don't white Americans clean up their communities and speak out against all these senseless killings by their own race? If its good for the goose....



They do, ar-tard.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26095 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:44 am to
Once again not complying completely with officer. Many family members break into their own families homes to steal. Willing to bet this guy was too. Freaking idiot.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17104 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:44 am to
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You're wrong. Stop and frisk, judicial sentencing of longer terms for the same crimes compared to whites, DWB, the # of unarmed blacks killed proportionate to their population size, etc. 


I've provided multiple studies and links that show this.



You're attacking a strawman. Please quote specifically in my post what I'm "wrong" about as none of what you just mentioned was discussed. The subject of your OP and it's significance is what was addressed, which you now completely neglect to mention in your efforts to change directions.

The rest of that is a sperate conversation entirely, which has been had ad nauseum here and elsewhere.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84350 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:47 am to
Even if you don't factor the higher rate (it is baffling they completely ignore it), if 83% of murders by white people are against other white people, doesn't that factor in favor of the argument that most white people aren't racist?
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:49 am
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:50 am to
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Well first of all, I'd like to point out that I never claimed to be an "expert." On top of that, I would reject the notion that one need be an "expert" to have valid and accurate observations of the matter.

And what criterion would you judge someone on to determine that they are an "expert" on the matter of police interactions with blacks?

That being said, as how I have read statistcs and studies from professionals and scholars and listened to both sides of the arguments from highly informed and experienced persons with these matters, I have exercised something called reason and formulated logical conclusions. That you seem to fail to understand how this process could possibly take place is a pretty good indication that you aren't exactly the kind of mind with an aptitude for objective analysis of political phenomena to begin with.

But I can more simply discredit you through mockery. So all those protesters who have destroyed property and looted prior to police investigations, with ignorant and false representations of the facts, and who peddle a notion that police are out to murder innocent blacks nationwide, are experts?


You are so full of shite. Name 5 of the studies you have read to help your formulate the conclusion that there is no systemic racism in the police department.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37761 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:52 am to
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He wasn't entirely compliant. He should have followed their orders and not argue with them. I don't care where I am or how indignant I feel, I'm going to follow the cops orders. That means, when the cop says "stay here", then I'm not going anywhere.

North Korea accepts you with open arms
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295457 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:52 am to
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You are so full of shite. Name 5 of the studies you have read to help your formulate the conclusion that there is no systemic racism in the police department.


It's called profiling, which is exactly what the OP did, and you are doing. In fact, we all do it and it's not limited to race.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
76290 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:52 am to
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You're attacking a strawman.



He should'na been in the hood wearing that watch.

#strawmenlivesmatter
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:53 am to
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You are so full of shite. Name 5 of the studies you have read to help your formulate the conclusion that there is no systemic racism in the police department.


Ahhhhhh, good ole systemic racism. Where it's ok to blame others for being a giant piece of shite.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:54 am to
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Ahhhhhh, good ole systemic racism. Where it's ok to blame others for being a giant piece of shite.



Sitting on your moms porch makes you a POS ok got it.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76290 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:55 am to
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It's called profiling, which is exactly what the OP did, and you are doing. In fact, we all do it and it's not limited to race.


Nor is it racist or even stupid. Prejudging things/people/situations is done in life ALL THE TIME! We all use our past experiences to lead our behavior.

Imagine going in to a doctor with classic flu symptoms and have him send you in to have your leg x-rayed.
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