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re: this is all the result of “One flew over the Cuckoos nest” Phenomena
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:36 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:36 pm to TutHillTiger
You start threads like old people frick
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:36 pm to TutHillTiger
you know it was a book first right
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:38 pm to TutHillTiger
How do you write an in depth analysis of an iconic movie and not even get the title of the film correct?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:40 pm to redstick13
quote:I feel like you're blissfully ignorant of the plague of localized tribal warlords shooting up villages, taking the young boys and forcing them to be child soldiers, who in turn perpetuate the cycle by doing the same to other villages. Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Just to play the antagonist role here. I've seen plenty of "mad" people wandering around places in Africa that receive no help. Never heard of one shooting up anything.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:43 pm to ScottFowler
Trivia time, The gentleman at the far left is Danny Devito in one of his early roles.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:45 pm to redstick13
quote:
Just to play the antagonist role here. I've seen plenty of "mad" people wandering around places in Africa that receive no help. Never heard of one shooting up anything.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:25 am to redstick13
quote:
Just to play the antagonist role here. I've seen plenty of "mad" people wandering around places in Africa that receive no help. Never heard of one shooting up anything.
They usually become Warlords and brainwash children into shooting up everything.
ETA: And this type of derailing of the subject matter is typical of Americans and an example of what is wrong with our country's mentality.
Why are we so afraid of admitting that we as a country have a mental-health problem? Why are we so adamant to turn a blind eye on the matter?
Basically, why are we so embarrassed to admit that there is a problem and start taking the steps to address it?
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 12:29 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:27 am to TutHillTiger
quote:saw it in the 90s
Most on here are not old enough to remember this movie etc from the 70s.
Some of Jack's best work and Danny Devito was great
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 12:29 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:54 am to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:
Just had my Mother in law in Ochner on a 72-hour hold under orders from the choroner.
She's crazy as shite, but that is just the way that dingbat always has been.
yea i mean when i was at ochsner there was almost always a couple people in the little psych corner of the ER waiting to go the psych ward. not sure why OP thinks they are a thing of the past.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:02 am to magildachunks
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Why are we so afraid of admitting that we as a country have a mental-health problem? Why are we so adamant to turn a blind eye on the matter?
1). We’re convinced that the cost of providing mental health care will be outrageous and prohibitive.
2). We’re skeptical that modern psychological therapy and medication will solve the problem.
Therefore, we ignore the problem and simply rely on a reactive, punitive system that locks people up sporadically and sometimes permanently after numerous violent offenses.
Those violent offenses, by the way, are often horrendous and immensely damaging to the victims but can receive relatively light sentences in no small part because the perpetrator is seen as less of a threat to society when they commit violence because of treatable mental illness. Tl;dr. It’s a viscous cycle.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:06 am to magildachunks
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Why are we so afraid of admitting that we as a country have a mental-health problem? Why are we so adamant to turn a blind eye on the matter?
Basically, why are we so embarrassed to admit that there is a problem and start taking the steps to address it?”
We’re not. It’s just that the people that we’ve allowed to make the decisions about the mentally impaired, are themselves mentally impaired. shite’s gonna get worse by a long shot before it gets better.
Why are we so afraid of admitting that we as a country have a mental-health problem? Why are we so adamant to turn a blind eye on the matter?
Basically, why are we so embarrassed to admit that there is a problem and start taking the steps to address it?”
We’re not. It’s just that the people that we’ve allowed to make the decisions about the mentally impaired, are themselves mentally impaired. shite’s gonna get worse by a long shot before it gets better.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:33 am to Legion of Doom
quote:And he was assassinated over a decade before the movie came out. Methinks OP's theory is bullcrap.
Kennedy was instrumental in closing down mental hospitals.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:40 am to TutHillTiger
OP is right. That movie caused outrage and people wanted long-term insane asylums shut down. ACLU got involved and begun suing on behalf of patients who claimed they were unfairly committed. Eventually the laws were changed making commitment much more difficult.
Today we have very few insane asylums left. Pretty much the only ones remaining are those for people already convicted of serious crimes.
The psych wards we have now (like at your local hospital) are for short term stays only. The average time until discharge is probably a week (maybe 2). Most people in there aren't dangerous (depressed people, etc.).
The old hospitals I am talking about are like these: Youtube 1970's Insane Asylum Documentary <--------Those types of hospitals don't really exist anymore.
Today we have very few insane asylums left. Pretty much the only ones remaining are those for people already convicted of serious crimes.
The psych wards we have now (like at your local hospital) are for short term stays only. The average time until discharge is probably a week (maybe 2). Most people in there aren't dangerous (depressed people, etc.).
The old hospitals I am talking about are like these: Youtube 1970's Insane Asylum Documentary <--------Those types of hospitals don't really exist anymore.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:41 am to TutHillTiger
The continued pushed of pharmaceuticals also led to us believing people would be just fine in society and over time we have had a decrease in inpatient facilities. So yes these people now end up in prisons without adequate help or end up in the emergency room for a couple of days and don’t get the prolonged help they need either.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:15 am to magildachunks
quote:
Why are we so afraid of admitting that we as a country have a mental-health problem? Why are we so adamant to turn a blind eye on the matter?
Basically, why are we so embarrassed to admit that there is a problem and start taking the steps to address it?
You can apply these questions to every hot button issue, from drug abuse, mental illness, who does most of the violence and why urban inner city youth are generally screwed right out the gate.
but god forbid you say anything. That's why this country is doomed. Everyone is scared of each other.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:22 am to dgnx6
Oh my community is spending millions of dollars on mental health facilities - they just aren't locking them up. They're wandering amongst everyone else and basically getting free room and board.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:35 am to victoire sécurisé
quote:
1). We’re convinced that the cost of providing mental health care will be outrageous and prohibitive.
2). We’re skeptical that modern psychological therapy and medication will solve the problem.
both points are highly reasonable lines of thought. also #2 will only help as much as the individual will voluntarily participate and lack of compliance is a well known problem in the mental health arena, which would also nod back to point #1 of wasted cost and effort.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 3:36 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:16 am to fr33manator
one's ok, can't let two in the same post go:
Bob Cratchit
Nurse Ratched
Bob Cratchit
Nurse Ratched
Posted on 5/25/22 at 5:11 am to Traveler
quote:
Trivia time, The gentleman at the far left is Danny Devito in one of his early roles.
4th from left is Christopher Lloyd. Also an early role.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 6:19 am to AMS
quote:
yea i mean when i was at ochsner there was almost always a couple people in the little psych corner of the ER waiting to go the psych ward. not sure why OP thinks they are a thing of the past.
quote:Anyone who has ever worked in a hospital, and had to deal with a patient in the psych unit will tell you.......sometimes it's hard to tell who is the patient from who works there.
yea i mean when i was at ochsner there was almost always a couple people in the little psych corner of the ER waiting to go the psych ward. not sure why OP thinks they are a thing of the past.
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