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dewster
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Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
They wouldn't start pushing this if they didn't have some intel on how these riots are being organized and funded.

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Barr Tells Prosecutors to Consider Charging Violent Protesters With Sedition

Wall Street Journal

Attorney General William Barr told the nation’s federal prosecutors to be aggressive when charging violent demonstrators with crimes, including potentially prosecuting protesters for plotting to overthrow the U.S. government, people familiar with the conversation said.

In a conference call with U.S. attorneys across the country last week, Mr. Barr warned that sometimes violent demonstrations across the U.S. could worsen as the November presidential election approaches. He encouraged the prosecutors to seek a number federal charges, including under a rarely used sedition law, even when state charges could apply, the people said.

The call underscores the priority Mr. Barr has given to prosecuting crimes connected to months of protests against racial injustice that have at times become violent and led to major property damage, as President Trump has made a broader crackdown on demonstrations a key campaign issue. U.S. attorneys have broad discretion in what charges they bring.

Federal prosecutors have charged more than 200 people with violent crimes related to the protests, most of whom face counts of arson, assaulting federal officers, or gun crimes. FBI officials earlier this year described the perpetrators as largely opportunistic individuals taking advantage of the protests. In more recent months, police officials say they are alarmed by the presence of armed fringe groups from both sides of the political spectrum.

In the call last week, Mr. Barr urged prosecutors to seek federal charges whenever possible, two of the people said. He listed a number of additional statutes they could potentially use, including one addressing conspiracies or plots to overthrow the government. Legal experts say the rarely used statute could be difficult to prove in court and potentially run up against First Amendment protections.

To bring a sedition case, prosecutors would have to prove there was a conspiracy to attack government agents or officials that posed an imminent danger, legal experts said. Rhetoric alone wouldn’t suffice.


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Officials have also discussed using a statute that allows prosecutors to bring a federal case against someone who impedes or obstructs a law enforcement officer responding to unrest, which experts said is also infrequently applied and could raise similar challenges. Federal prosecutors in June brought that charge against three people accused of throwing Molotov cocktails at New York City police vehicles during protests. They have pleaded not guilty.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.


Full article is at link. There is a paywall.


Priapus
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
Let the hangings begin...


hombreman9
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition


I can only hope it would have implications for the elitist jerk offs that were posting bail for rioters.... but you know it won’t.


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goofball
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
Nice. Federal prosecutors have air cover to rip into these rioters.

Some of them will be in jail for decades.


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brewhan davey
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
18 U.S.C.A. § 2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.



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NakaTrash
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
Downvoters ID yourself so we can add you to the sedition watchlist.


goofball
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
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Downvoters ID yourself so we can add you to the sedition watchlist.



You could predict who those downvotes are with a reasonable degree of certainty.


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SouthEndzoneTiger
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
There is an article out there now about a judge in PA who is finally cracking down on rioters. She set bail for most of them at $1 million each. Of course, dem politicians are pissed.

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A top Pennsylvania Democrat slammed a Lancaster judge for setting the bail of several protesters arrested during demonstrations over a fatal police shooting of a man with a knife at $1 million each, lambasting the decision as "blatantly unconstitutional."

Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman argued in a Wednesday tweet the $1 million figure was an infringement on the protesters' Eighth Amendment right against excessive bail.


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Magisterial District Judge Bruce A. Roth set bail for nine of the defendants at $1 million each. At least seven remain in jail in lieu of bond. Roth did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

“You look at the kinds of cases that this usually attaches to, a $1 million bail, you’re talking about capital murder," Fetterman said. "You’re talking about a crime of the highest order.”


Now here is the funny part...

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Fetterman was not alone in his criticism of the $1 million bail. The American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania called it an "egregious and unacceptable abuse of the bail system."

"What’s far more likely is that the million-dollar bail was set as a warning to other protesters, chilling their ability to exercise their First Amendment right to assemble, and deterring further demonstrations against this latest police killing," said Nyssa Taylor, criminal justice policy counsel at the Pennsylvania ACLU.


They are actually making it sound negative that our justice system works this way. Like this is new to them. Do they not understand that the whole purpose of jails and prisons is to deter crime? Unbelievable.

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Loup
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
i don't want to overthrow it but gutting it and making it very very small would be nice.
This post was edited on 9/16 at 1:11 pm


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goofball
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There is an article out there now about a judge in PA who is finally cracking down on rioters. She set bail for most of them at $1 million each. Of course, dem politicians are pissed.



The Soros funded judges have clear instruction to either release without bail or a very low bail....if charges even get filed at all.


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dewster
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
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A top Pennsylvania Democrat slammed a Lancaster judge for setting the bail of several protesters


Where the ones with the $1 million bond really protesters? Or were they rioters from out of town?


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G I Jeaux
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
Bout Dammmm Time. How about RICO


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HeadSlash
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
About damn time


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yatesdog38
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
When is Steve Bannon gonna be charged for sedition?


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UKWildcats
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Havoc
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
Who cares if there are challenges, arrest and charge any and all violent or excessively obstructive ones and let them/their handlers deal with it.


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windshieldman
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re: Things may finally be getting real for these rioters: FedGov to charge with Sedition
As a white liberal I don’t understand the problem. We go around, burn and destroy black neighborhoods, all in the name of BLM. And they LOVE US for it, I don’t know why, they just do, those black folks.

Some of y’all are racists btw


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