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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:17 am to Powerman
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:17 am to Powerman
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Perhaps I'm fortunate to work in an industry that doesn't pay people shite wages. I guess I'm somewhat insulated from the idea that people should expect "skilled" labor for 16 dollars an hour.
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Construction management
I’m sure you have plenty of subs getting shite pay
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:18 am to Powerman
quote:The day you realize that there is a finite amount a business can effectively pay their employees before said business ceases to exist.
When will you realize that if you can't attract employees it's partially YOUR fault
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:18 am to Powerman
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When will you realize that if you can't attract employees it's partially YOUR fault
In a vacuum you'd be correct. When the government is outcompeting you with tax dollars, it's hardly a "free market".
Your inability to grasp this is cringe inducing.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:19 am to bee Rye
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I’m sure you have plenty of subs getting shite pay
Nope
Most of our subs are usually in highly specific fields and make more than our own employees
Now there are other trades involved with the whole process that don't make great money. Scaffold builders for instance.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:20 am to CptRusty
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In a vacuum you'd be correct. When the government is outcompeting you with tax dollars, it's hardly a "free market".
Your inability to grasp this is cringe inducing.
Your inability to grasp that I'm not discounting this is even more cringe inducing
I've mentioned it as a factor several times in this thread
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:21 am to toofache
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We’ve been trying to hire a few new dental assistants over the past few months. $25/ hr with no experience up to $30/hr with.
In the last two months we have received exactly 0 resumes.
Every dental office in the area is in the same boat.
Just out of curiosity, is it only part-time with no other benefits? Or full-time with benefits?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:21 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Or it’s principled... I knew I could find work if I wanted to, and I did. If not being a freeloader welfare queen makes me dumb, so be it. I guess I’m dumb. But now I’m educated and making a nice six figure salary. So, perhaps my pride, principles, work ethic and “stupidity” paid off. Or maybe that’s just my privilege talking...
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:21 am to CptRusty
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Your inability to grasp this is cringe inducing.
Market rates are market rates, until the government enters the market. He's in here chirping his uninformed opinions as fact, then clumsily trying to debate his way through them.
Its like watching that legless guy on TikTok trying to hit a baseball.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:21 am to Powerman
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I've mentioned it as a factor several times in this thread
And then immediately dismissed it as not the primary factor, while laying the blame squarely at the feet of businesses who have been forcibly locked down for almost a year for not "just taking lower margins".
OK, let's back up. I'll ask you what I asked Mingo...
What percentage blame would you place on the expanded unemployment payments for the labor shortage?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:22 am to thadcastle
Funny enough, I applied for a part-time position ~12-16 hours a week at 2 retailers in the Metairie area so I could make a little cash after my day job to put extra on our home and I've not received a call back from either. Submitted online and in-person applications for both.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:23 am to Powerman
quote:So do I, are you feeling the labor shortage big time right now? Having to fricking extend completion dates?
Construction management
How about the increase in materials eating into your profits?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:23 am to thadcastle
I traveled 600 miles thru 3 states this past weekend. EVERY business we went to/in had a help wanted sign on the door or in the window. Bizarro World we live in right now.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:25 am to CptRusty
Ask him why, pre-pandemic, we had 3.5% unemployment and robust low income wage growth WITHOUT a welfare scheme that brings labor force non-participators to the national median income level?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:25 am to RT1941
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So do I, are you feeling the labor shortage big time right now? Having to fricking extend completion dates?
No problem at all getting labor. We have some big things coming up that will prove to be challenging but that would be in any market.
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How about the increase in materials eating into your profits?
We take this into account at bid time
But material costs have absolutely skyrocketed
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:26 am to Vacherie Saint
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Ask him why, pre-pandemic, we had 3.5% unemployment and robust low income wage growth WITHOUT a welfare scheme that brings labor force non-participators to the national median income level?
I have, several times.
Apparently all of these workers suddenly found their dignity, or something.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:27 am to Powerman
Its amazing how our board libs NEVER seem to feel the sting of the very clear economic consequences of their votes.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:28 am to Vacherie Saint
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Its amazing how our board libs NEVER seem to feel the sting of the very clear economic consequences of their votes.
I'm not a lib. That's where you're wrong.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:29 am to Powerman
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When will you realize that if you can't attract employees it's partially YOUR fault
Sure. With existing contracts, its just so easy to go to the GC and/or retailer and beg for more money.
Industry loves that.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:29 am to Powerman
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We take this into account at bid time
I don’t see how you could factor in the price increases in copper, lumber, steel and PVC over the last 6-9 months and still win any bids
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:30 am to Powerman
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