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The Wildest General From the Civil War

Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:41 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:41 am
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In 1859, Congressman Daniel Sickles shot and killed the man sleeping with his wife. After escaping a prison sentence, Sickles disobeyed orders in the Civil War and lost a leg. After the war, General Dan Sickles donated the leg to the Army Medical Museum. And that's just the start when it comes to the wildest general in the Civil War.


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Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:43 am to
This discussion begins and ends with Nathan Bedford Forrest.
The most brilliant man the war ever produced.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:45 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:46 am to
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This discussion begins and ends with Nathan Bedford Forrest.
The most brilliant man the war ever produced.


LOL
Posted by Amadeo
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:48 am to
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This discussion begins and ends with Nathan Bedford Forrest.
The most brilliant man the war ever produced.


Thank you for saving me the trouble.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:50 am to
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This discussion begins and ends with Nathan Bedford Forrest.
The most brilliant man the war ever produced.


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Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 9:52 am to
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The most brilliant man the war ever produced.



While I disagree completely with this assertion, the video isn't titled "The Most Brilliant General From the Civil War."
Posted by High C
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:05 am to
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shot and killed the man sleeping with his wife.


How wild…
Posted by Amadeo
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:19 am to
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While I disagree completely with this assertion, the video isn't titled "The Most Brilliant General From the Civil War."


Grabbing a Union soldier by the collar to use him as a shield while escaping the Union line is pretty damn wild to me.

Here's a pretty decent read on Forrest.
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He was the most unapologetic "White Devil" ever conceived by woman that no actor in Hollywood is handsome enough to properly portray.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:24 am to
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While I disagree completely with this assertion, the video isn't titled "The Most Brilliant General From the Civil War."

Looks like your thread got taken over.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:25 am to
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This discussion begins and ends with Nathan Bedford Forrest.
The most brilliant man the war ever produced.



Uhhh no....that honor goes to Stonewall Jackson
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:49 am to
Listening to this makes you wonder what were people thinking when they made this guy a general, but I know there were many others like Sickles in high command.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:54 am to
Seconded for Stonewall. Forrest was a fantastic Calvary commander, but his business acumen and success before the War elevates him a tad.

Jackson lived a non descript life that saw him rise above a drunk, gamblaholic lawyer father who squandered his fortune and ran out on his mother who died and left Jackson and his sister to extended family and sporadic public school education.

Jackson was the final cadet admitted to West Point after his friend who beat him for the appointment dropped out after one day. After one year, he was the last ranked student to make the cut to his second year.

But by the time he finished, he was 17th in his class.

Goes to the Mexican War and balls out. Winfield Scott calls him out for bravery for what he did as an artillery commander. Goes back and stumbles through a dormant post war period ending up teaching what we call Physics and being clowned by the students.

When the Civil War breaks out, he becomes a General and does things with both small and large commands that were heretofore thought impossible militarily. He marched his underequipped, malnourished, sleep deprived men seemingly impossible distances and then immediately moved them into position and beat that Union arse. Against bad odds. Usually outnumbered. Always outgunned. No supply chain. Little to no reinforcements.

It didn’t matter. His men realized when they were on the March, when they stopped, it’s. About. To. Go. Down.

Time after time. Battle after Battle. He just won. He outfoxed and outmaneuvered and absolutely out motivated his counterparts who had superior numbers, supplies, artillery, equipment, medical care, and-allegedly-better trained officers.

Just reading about what he did and how he did it makes you think Stonewall Jackson in the Shenandoah Valley was the human personification of an 800 pound gorilla with a chainsaw for a penis.

The Union got their asses beat so thoroughly by him that it fueled their general’s fear and refusal to fight while exaggerating the strength of his army and raw numbers.

He was mythic.

JEB Stuart and Ashby were easily Forrest’s equals as cavalry commanders. Neither survived the Civil War so I think that takes away from their accomplishments. But JEB telegraphing the Union after he captured their base and complaining that their horses and wagons weren’t high quality enough to keep plundering is serious big dick energy…
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by bulldog95
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:55 am to
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This discussion begins and ends with Nathan Bedford Forrest. The most brilliant man the war ever produced.


I also think stonewall Jackson’s should be mentioned
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 10:58 am to
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Sickles disobeyed orders in the Civil War and lost a leg. 

Punishments were harsher back then.
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 11:09 am to
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He was the most unapologetic "White Devil" ever conceived by woman that no actor in Hollywood is handsome enough to properly portray.


I was looking forward to Anson Mount (Bohannon-Hell on Wheels)giving it a whirl until he had to go overly WOKE to save himself when they find out that he is a direct descendant of a Confederate Colonel who rode with Forrest.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/31/21 at 11:14 am to
Joseph Hooker.

He might now have been a great field leader but no one partied like 'fightin joe' Hooker. Myth or real, who cares. Sometimes we need to let the legends be legends.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64889 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 11:18 am to
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Grabbing a Union soldier by the collar to use him as a shield while escaping the Union line is pretty damn wild to me.


Killing your wife's lover across the street from the White House while also getting away with it, quickly rising to the rank of major general despite having no formal military training or experience, disobeying your commanding officer's orders (and thus altering the course of the largest battle in American history), getting carried from the field with one leg, cigar firmly clamped in mouth, and doing it all while taking many mistresses - including the reigning Queen of Spain - is pretty damn wild to me as well.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 11:21 am
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 11:18 am to
NBF enlisted as a ~40 year old private with no military training. His audacious approach to battle and calvary leadership would qualify him as "wild".
If anyone is interested in a NBF biography, I enjoyed "That Devil Forrest".
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64889 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 11:21 am to
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His audacious approach to battle and calvary leadership would qualify him as "wild".


Meh. Grierson was wilder than Forrest - and better. He was a music teacher with no formal military training, much like Forrest. Wade Hampton was probably better than Forrest as well.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 11:22 am
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