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The Texas culture of corruption

Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:22 am
Posted by ecb
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Posted by BruslyTiger
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:24 am to
Do you have a synopsis for that paywall?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:30 am to
Showed for me. TLDR
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:33 am to
If you think elected officials blindly allowing a lobbyist to hand them shite like this is limited to Texas or one party or another you’re a fool.

It happens at every level with every party. Is it BS? Yes absolutely. Obamacare wasn’t written by elected officials and their staffs it was written by lobbyists. Patriot Act? Same thing. I would venture the vast majority of legislation is written “off site”.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:41 am to
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TLDR


Lobbyist gives senator language to drop in to a bill allowing use tax and property tax breaks for building affordable housing.

Company that Lobbyist works for (plus others) uses loophole in said bill to build lots of apartments that get massive tax breaks despite them being anything but affordable.

State senator has no recollection of it.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:43 am to
damn. Thats pretty ballsy of em to pull that. But nothing will happen
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:44 am to
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I would venture the vast majority of legislation is written “off site”.


yes. it also redirects the power congress holds to the bureaucracies. the law says the department of X will determine the specifics of the law, which is why anything scored by the CBO is bullshite.

we're governed by the largely arbitrary CFR, not by our leaders.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:53 am to
Last minute amendment allows developers huge tax breaks for affordable housing, but in practice the developers use the tax breaks for regular apt complexes, reaping more profit at public expense.

When questioned about it, the ex senator doesn’t remember the particulars, but states “a lobbyist brought it to me.”
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:55 am to
Only fools believe in political parties, my point is about the access and power of lobbyists. How do we fix it? Ban lobbying?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:59 am to
Residents of Louisiana bashing Texas for corruption is lolz.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:04 am to
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Only fools believe in political parties, my point is about the access and power of lobbyists. How do we fix it? Ban lobbying?



repeal the 17th(popular election of senators) so that every local election down to dog catcher is more important.

politics and Gov't is better when it's localized, worse when it's distant.

end almost every alphabet bureaucracy.

the states are held hostage to federal dollars. end that too. that the feds are capable of pulling money from texans pockets and then control who gets it coming back in is a lot of the problem.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 9:52 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:12 am to
I often wonder what the country would look like without lobbyists. On the surface, it sees like lobbyists hurt things more than they help. But they do provide protections for the common good at times as well. I think our second amendment would have been obliterated to hell without the NRA. I don't always agree with the NRA's position on things, but in the end, they have played a critical role in keeping our gun rights in tact.

I could write a novel about the Texas craft beer scene. Andrews and Ben E Kieth are the two big lobbyist organizations in Texas and they write their own laws that discourage businesses from brewing at will and keep their margins healthy.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:53 am to
I know one man who is a lobbyist. I don’t even know for what. I envy him. He lives a life of a straight up BAW. His home is ridiculous. His perks are ridiculous. His deer lease is ridiculous because he gets dibs on state land that the general public has no access to.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:55 am to
These people make me feel like the pauper. Which I guess I am.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:59 am to
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(the majority of Houston projects do include the caps, the study found)

You have two companies that have found a loophole and using it to their advantage and one from Ohio doing work in Texas. So they're skirting with the right/wrong of the intended purpose. That's hardly a culture as you put it.

But the misunderstanding in this article appears to be the targets of the intended "affordable" renters. These projects are not section 8 type projects. The intention is to provide a certain percentage of units for affordable rent to firemen, teachers, etc. in high rent areas that work in those areas. It's not government housing.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:19 am to
I have experienced "Texan" corruption first hand. While there is corruption everywhere, the Texan variety is interesting to me because it is so very antithetical to the Louisiana variety.

In Texas, it's all about getting ahead to tear down other people. You slip a little money to so and so to spread rumors about a competitor, you get permits pulled from someone else. The idea is to tear others down to build you up. Texans see their fellow man as the opponent.

In Louisiana, people collude and form syndicates that protect each other. In Louisiana, it's all about cheating the rules to advance the group, not destroying another group to get ahead. Louisianians see their fellow man as themselves, and view the system itself as the opponent.

This cultural divide is never more evident than in college classrooms. Talk to any professor at a university with large populations of Louisiana and Texas students and they'll tell you the same story. The Louisiana students steal the answers to the test and share them with their study group of close friends to all get ahead. The Texas student pretends to steal the answers to the test and then distributes the wrong answers to their fellow classmates so that they do poorly by comparison. The Texans see their classmates as the opponent, so they compete to get ahead of each other. The Louisiana students see the teacher and the school itself as the opponent, so they constantly attempt to use and undermine the system to get ahead.

Texans Compete.

Louisianians collude.
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:51 am to
Whatever the corruption is, Louisiana says hold my beer and watch this shite...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:00 am to
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I know one man who is a lobbyist. I don’t even know for what. I envy him. He lives a life of a straight up BAW. His home is ridiculous. His perks are ridiculous. His deer lease is ridiculous because he gets dibs on state land that the general public has no access to


I know a bunch, most aren't well paid and it's very heavily regulated. Big bucks come with a major client and/or a large number of clients.
Their pay is public record.

This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 10:02 am
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:03 am to
While I'm sure that it is based on limited experience and a fair amount of generalization, I'd bet that a sociology prof could make a research career out of your post.

Interesting observations.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:43 am to
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In Texas, it's all about getting ahead to tear down other people. You slip a little money to so and so to spread rumors about a competitor, you get permits pulled from someone else. The idea is to tear others down to build you up. Texans see their fellow man as the opponent.

That is such horseshite.
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