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re: The ramblings of a St. George opponent

Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Then you suck at writing. Try writing coherent statements.


Next time I write an opinion I'll be sure to phrase it in such a manner that you can call me ignorant more easily, and look like more of a twatwaffle when you Frick that up too.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133497 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
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The Baker School District got worse.


They have nowhere near the number of students they had before.
So? Their performance grade went down to an F. This year they are back to a D rated system. They are the only one of the 3 newly created ISD in EBR that didn't raise their school property taxes after they broke away.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61358 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
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This is the first step to having the necessary control to preserve and improve the educational system. You don't like it because of what it will do to Baton Rouge. I get that.


Baton Rouge? Try St. George, Baton Rouge, and then P'ville and LP.

Until you can get a moat dug and a permit for building a concrete wall complete with guard towers, machine gun nests and checkpoints, the plague will only get bigger and more intense until you stop running from your problems and face them. Learn from your grandparents and parents. Don't repeat their mistakes and expect a different result. The answer is not to run from BR, but to invest in it. Show me an area that people choose to invest in and I'll show you an area that is in demand. It's pretty simple stuff, but it does require us to stop running and take the offensive to get what was stolen from us back. Check that. It wasn't stolen. We gave it away because we thought it was disposable like we fashion everything else these days.






This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2834 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
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How much do St. George residents do for their schools now? How much do they really participate in school functions and fundraising and donating?


Most students don't have two licks of school pride because of how shitty the board treats the students, not caring about how they do in the long run or what they become after school, only what their test scores reflect.

I was very active in high school from sports, to theater to school news segments. A couple years after graduating, I tried to go back and say hey to some of the teachers that I became close with and was turned down. I was told that EBRPSS does not want people that aren't students or employees on campus during school hours. It kind of kills the attempt to have a little bit of school spirit and visit from time to time.

The other day, my brother called me after school saying one of my favorite teachers quit because she was being harrassed by students. They were calling her an old white hag, racist, and many other things. She went to the administration about this, who did nothing. She went to the school board about this, who also did nothing. Eventually she gave up hope and quit.

How can someone have pride in their school if the school doesn't defend one of the best and most tenured teachers there?

Those aren't the type of kids and the kind of people I want my kids associating with at school or having run their school.

If I cannot send my kids to private school their whole life, what other choices do I have? My parents had to send me and my siblings to public school after attending private school from K-8th grade because it was just to expensive. The only reason we went to private school is because our mom taught there. St. George forming would give me better options if I need them, so why not?
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by paddys pub
Sunny Philly
Member since Nov 2008
49 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:12 pm to
You are getting a discount if you are catholic, look at their rate schedule. Just because you've never had to look at it doesn't mean other people don't. I've looked at pretty much all of the private schools cost and none are at 3k a year.
Please prove that I'm ignorant and show me where tuition only costs 3k a year.
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Until you can get a moat dug and a permit for building a concrete wall complete with guard towers, machine gun nests and checkpoints, the plague will only get bigger and more intense until you stop running from your problems and face them


Are you saying that staying in EBR, keeping my money in EBR and keeping my child in school in EBR is 'running from my problems?' What exactly do you call what the BRPD chief of police did, which is taking his Baton Rouge paycheck and his kids to Ascension parish? If staying here and incorporating is fleeing, what do you call moving out of the parish?
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12122 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:20 pm to
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So? Their performance grade went down to an F. This year they are back to a D rated system. They are the only one of the 3 newly created ISD in EBR that didn't raise their school property taxes after they broke away.
Doesn't sound very different from the current state of the majority of EBR schools.
So, worst case scenario is that the schools end up being the same?

As for the taxes issue, let's put it into dollars and cents:
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They improved after Zachary raised their school property taxes by almost 80%. Central raised their school property taxes by about 50%.
Median home value in Baton Rouge is $151,500 from 2011. After HE, the property taxes per year are $765.
So for Zachary, that was $620/yr.
For Central, it was $380/yr.
Scary.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:21 pm to




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You are getting a discount if you are catholic, look at their rate schedule. Just because you've never had to look at it doesn't mean other people don't. I've looked at pretty much all of the private schools cost and none are at 3k a year. Please prove that I'm ignorant and show me where tuition only costs 3k a year
LINK LINK LINK

Im not going to call you ignorant, BUT they are not 6-9k a year
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16264 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:24 pm to
$20 says he points out that catholics get a discount...
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Well I must be getting a discount then. I dont pay anywhere near that amount a year to send my kids to catholic school.



#1, you need to learn how to quote the proper poster when you quote someone.

#2, how much do you pay to send your kids to catholic schools? What is the primary reason you send them to these schools? How many kids do you have?

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133497 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:28 pm to
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Median home value in Baton Rouge is $151,500 from 2011.
Are you saying the posters on this board have been lying when they claim houses in the SG district are palaces compared to the typical house in the rest of East Baton Rouge Parish and that's why SG is paying so much more in property taxes than the rest of the parish which proves SG can be self sufficient with their tax revenues and not raise their taxes?? Hmmmm????
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:28 pm to
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You are getting a discount if you are catholic, look at their rate schedule. Just because you've never had to look at it doesn't mean other people don't. I've looked at pretty much all of the private schools cost and none are at 3k a year.
Please prove that I'm ignorant and show me where tuition only costs 3k a year.



You are 100% right. We pay 10K+ for my two kids. I don't have the figures in front of me, but it's probably closer to 12 or 13K.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133497 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:29 pm to
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#1, you need to learn how to quote the proper poster when you quote someone.

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moneyg
I've noticed you get quite condescending in your replies to other posters....
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Obsessed much???


Lie much?

where is your property?
Posted by paddys pub
Sunny Philly
Member since Nov 2008
49 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:31 pm to
So St. George is around 5k.
STM is around 6k
Sacred heart around 5k.

Which is more than 3k a year. If you have 2 or 3 kids are you swinging 10k to 15k a year for private school?

They are all catholic schools also.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61358 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:32 pm to
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Are you saying that staying in EBR, keeping my money in EBR and keeping my child in school in EBR is 'running from my problems?' What exactly do you call what the BRPD chief of police did, which is taking his Baton Rouge paycheck and his kids to Ascension parish? If staying here and incorporating is fleeing, what do you call moving out of the parish?


I'm saying that none of these problems happened by themselves overnight, but were at a direct result of the baby boomer mindset that didn't invest in the city, rather they left it. It comes from piss poor zoning, extremely low density sprawl, and two surface street arteries going in either direction of the city and mind numbing traffic as a result. It comes from the Interstates becoming Main Street and a downtown and parts surrounding it left to rot and become uninhibited, even by the very derelicts that people think inhabit it, because it's been that long since they've spent any significant time down there to know any better.

I'm saying that the answers to these problems won't happen overnight, but they certainly won't ever happen but wax much much worse until we first admit like an alcoholic that we have a problem that we can't run from, hold our breath and hope it just goes away, or hide in our homes and hope like a Passover it will pass us by.

You are NOT isolated from a plague that grows in size and Intensity at every passing day. There is no Florida Blvd demarcation line to differentiate one place from another, and then it's I-12. What's the new line in the sand? Highland Road?



Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12122 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:32 pm to
Whether it's 3k per year per kid, Or 6k per year per kid, is irrelevant.

The potential to pay 50-80% increase in property taxes [assuming Russian is correct] (which falls in the neighborhood of $400-600/yr for most families) for ALL of their kids is a worthwhile gamble for most families.

You roll the dice that SG works out and gives you a Zachary. Worst case scenario is that it's not better and you are right back where you started but have an extra $500/yr in property taxes.
You're still going to have to decide to move out of EBR or go to private school.

But.... what if it is a great educational system?
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16264 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:32 pm to
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If you have 2 or 3 kids are you swinging 10k to 15k a year for private school?

TBH there was never any mention of how many kids it would take to reach the 6-10K argument
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133497 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:34 pm to
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where is your property?
In EBR in the Highland Road area south of the LSU campus.

Do you honestly believe I would post my home address on here? If so, once again you prove your total and complete nescience.
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