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re: The ramblings of a St. George opponent

Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17164 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Here is what SG sees:

are Zachary schools better? YES...why can't ours be?

Are Central schools better? Yes...Why can't ours be?

Are Baker schools better? Yes...How in the hell are Baker schools better?


Well, its quite possible that if St. George happens we might see an improved school system there too. Then you'd likely see BR slide more/faster then we'd probably get back to square 1 with the feds all over our arse.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm not trying to come across the wrong way at all, but I have no current alternative to "fast track" my child in Ascension parish.

If he goes to any school in EBR theyll transfer him to McKinley after 5th grade.



Let's assume that is a good option for you.

It doesn't say anything about the EBR school system as a whole.

I don't think it's much of a stretch to think that St. George, over time, will be able to offer more than EBR does. In fact, it will be pretty easy to do so.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:47 pm to
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people just want to get a quality product that we have no choice but to pay for.



Exactly.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:51 pm to
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are Zachary schools better? YES...why can't ours be?


Was already it's own town. Also had a strong support system from the community in the form of fundraising, active participation in sports events and theater events, and private donations to improve the schools.

quote:

Are Central schools better? Yes...Why can't ours be?


Same community support for their schools prior to breaking away.
Still owes the legacy costs to BR.

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Are Baker schools better? Yes...How in the hell are Baker schools better?


Was it's own city.



How much do St. George residents do for their schools now? How much do they really participate in school functions and fundraising and donating?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133498 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:53 pm to
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I graduated from Woodlawn in 2009, I know for a fact that half the guys I played football with were from Scotlandville.
The deseg lawsuit settlement was in 2008. Busing for deseg purposes started scaling back in the 2010/2011 school year.

The only busing across attendance zones now are for students attending either a magnet or GT school out of their neighborhood or in the case of students who would be attending Lee High while it is being rebuilt.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:53 pm to
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So, in keeping with the best interests of the children, and i suppose their children as well, they're making their last stand in St. George? Where is the egress location? Where do we board the busses? North Mall, Mall of LA, or Perkins Rowe?



...as opposed with the status quo? You have no viable alternative. The residents of St. George are taking control of their future. In the end, if they fail, that will be on them. But, I'd say that he status quo is a guarantee of failure.

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This reminds me of an old story I heard about why kicking the national debt can was important for our children, or dipping into our social security for the sake of our children.



This is the opposite of that. This is a proactive move to separate St. George (a mostly homogenous group whose values are similar) from a larger group whose values do not align. And, this is evidenced by the very flight from Baton Rouge that you complain about.

quote:

bullshite.... It's more kicking the can and your children will be the very ones dealing with this, as we were with the decisions of our parents generation when our city began evacuating for the sake of "the children"



You (BR) have failed the children. Your desire for a "community", which you have failed miserably to provide, does not take precedence over a parent's desire to take care for and educate their children.

This is the first step to having the necessary control to preserve and improve the educational system. You don't like it because of what it will do to Baton Rouge. I get that.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24405 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:54 pm to
Why is your avi and sig picture missing?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133498 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:54 pm to
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You're obsessed with that, aren't you? How many times have you asked me about my home and property and where I live? It must be up to 9 or 10 times now. Maybe more. Why are you so obsessed with that?



Because you said it, and because its a lie.

Posted by paddys pub
Sunny Philly
Member since Nov 2008
49 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:55 pm to
This is an ignorant statement and obviously you have never looked at the cost of private school. Cable and cell combined is about $250 for me, that's approximately 3k a year. Most private school runs around 6k to 9k a year.

Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20356 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:56 pm to
You still misunderstand me. St George is in EBR. If they set up an independent magnet school, I would strongly consider it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:56 pm to
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How much do St. George residents do for their schools now? How much do they really participate in school functions and fundraising and donating?





Why do you think this is? Are you making the case that St. George residents just care less about their children's schooling?

If St. George happens, you will be sickened at the amount of "St. George" pride and promotion that goes on. Everyone, including those who opposed it, will be behind the movement.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Why do you think this is? Are you making the case that St. George residents just care less about their children's schooling? If St. George happens, you will be sickened at the amount of "St. George" pride and promotion that goes on. Everyone, including those who opposed it, will be behind the movement.



Being a part of EBRSS didn't deter Zachary, Central, and Baker from already doing these things.

Baker had the hardest road, mainly because of how poor the area is.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133498 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Are Baker schools better? Yes...How in the hell are Baker schools better?

The Baker School District got worse.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61875 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:00 pm to
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You still misunderstand me. St George is in EBR. If they set up an independent magnet school, I would strongly consider it.



You misunderstand me. What I'm saying is your individual situation (right now) is irrelevant. Over time, I'd say that Ascension parish and and a newly formed St. George school system will be in a better position to educate those in your situation and those whose kids don't have the natural aptitude that yours do.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16264 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:01 pm to
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How much do St. George residents do for their schools now? How much do they really participate in school functions and fundraising and donating?

so you give money to the Alabama Alumni Association even though you probably went to LSU?
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16264 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

The Baker School District got worse.

nothing was worse than the old Baker schools!
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12122 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Then you suck at writing. Try writing coherent statements.
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Posted by moneyg
I just wanted to point out that it is very noticeable that your arguments always devolve into this attacking of the messenger.

Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130367 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

The Baker School District got worse.


They have nowhere near the number of students they had before.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61358 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Then you'd likely see BR slide more/faster then we'd probably get back to square 1 with the feds all over our arse.


And a city on welfare that can't even fund it's own infrastructure. How's about living right next door to Gary Indiana? Seen pictures of that ghost town?


Nothing new
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:06 pm to
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This is an ignorant statement and obviously you have never looked at the cost of private school. Cable and cell combined is about $250 for me, that's approximately 3k a year. Most private school runs around 6k to 9k a year.


Well I must be getting a discount then. I dont pay anywhere near that amount a year to send my kids to catholic school.
Check yo self before the "ignorant" starts flying.
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