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The Failure of the Imperial College Model is Far Worse Than We Knew

Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:21 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:21 pm
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As Europe descended into the first round of its now year-long experiment with shelter-in-place restrictions, Sweden famously shirked the strategy recommended by Ferguson. In doing so, they also created the conditions of a natural experiment to see how their coronavirus numbers performed against the epidemiology models. Although Ferguson originally limited his scope to the US and UK, a team of researchers at Uppsala University in Sweden borrowed his model and adapted it to their country with similarly catastrophic projections. If Sweden did not lock down by mid-April, the Uppsala team projected, the country would soon experience 96,000 coronavirus deaths.

I was one of the first people to call attention to the Uppsala adaptation of Ferguson’s model back on April 30, 2020. Even at that early date, the model showed clear signs of faltering. Although Sweden was hit hard by the virus, its death toll stood at only a few thousand at a point where the adaptation from Ferguson’s model already expected tens of thousands. At the one year mark, Sweden had a little over 13,000 fatalities from Covid-19 – a serious toll, but smaller on a per-capita basis than many European lockdown states and a far cry from the 96,000 deaths projected by the Uppsala adaptation.


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In the House of Lords hearing from last year, Conservative member Viscount Ridley grilled Ferguson over the Swedish adaptation of his model: “Uppsala University took the Imperial College model – or one of them – and adapted it to Sweden and forecasted deaths in Sweden of over 90,000 by the end of May if there was no lockdown and 40,000 if a full lockdown was inforced.” With such extreme disparities between the projections and reality, how could the Imperial team continue to guide policy through their modeling?

Ferguson snapped back, disavowing any connection to the Swedish results: “First of all, they did not use our model. They developed a model of their own. We had no role in parameterising it. Generally, the key aspect of modelling is how well you parameterise it against the available data. But to be absolutely clear they did not use our model, they didn’t adapt our model.”


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As it turns out though, Ferguson and the Imperial College team were being less than truthful in their attempts to dissociate themselves from Sweden’s observed outcomes. In the weeks following the release of their well-known US and UK projections, Ferguson and his team did in fact produce a trimmed-down version of their own modeling exercise for the rest of the world, including Sweden. They did not widely publicize the country-level projections, but the full list may be found buried in a Microsoft Excel appendix file to Imperial College’s Report #12, released on March 26, 2020.

Imperial’s own projected results for Sweden are nearly identical to the Uppsala adaptation of their UK model. Ferguson’s team forecast up to 90,157 deaths under “unmitigated” spread (compared to Uppsala’s 96,000). Under the “population-level social distancing” scenario meant to approximate NPI mitigation measures such as lockdowns, the Imperial modelers predicted Sweden would incur up to 42,473 deaths (compared to 40,000 from the Uppsala adaptation).


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It turns out that Viscount Ridley’s line of questioning was correct all along. The Uppsala adaptation of Ferguson’s model not only projected exaggerated death tolls in Sweden. Ferguson’s own projections for Sweden advanced similar numbers, all wildly off the mark from what happened.


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The Imperial College team fully intended for its multi-country model to guide policy. They called on other countries to adopt lockdowns and related NPIs to reduce the projected death toll from the “unmitigated” scenario to “social distancing.” As Ferguson and his colleagues wrote at the time, “[t]o help inform country strategies in the coming weeks, we provide here summary statistics of the potential impact of mitigation and suppression strategies in all countries across the world. These illustrate the need to act early, and the impact that failure to do so is likely to have on local health systems.”

Failure to act, they continued, would lead to near-certain catastrophe. As Ferguson and his team wrote, “[t]he only approaches that can avert health system failure in the coming months are likely to be the intensive social distancing measures currently being implemented in many of the most affected countries, preferably combined with high levels of testing.” In short, the world needed to go into immediate lockdown in order to avert the catastrophes predicted by their multi-country model.


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As can be seen, Imperial College wildly overstated the projected deaths in each country under both its “unmitigated” scenario and its NPI-reliant “social distancing” scenario – including by orders of magnitude in several cases.

(OP Note: The Imperial Model predicted over one million deaths in the United States *with* lockdowns and over 2.2 million *without* lockdowns. More than a year after it was originally published, some 530,000 people have died in the United States from Covid-19.)

Similar exaggerations may be found in almost every other country where Imperial released projections, even as most of them opted to lock down. The Imperial team’s most conservative model predicted 332,000 deaths in France under lockdown-based “social distancing” and 621,000 with “unmitigated” spread. At the one year mark, France had incurred 94,000 deaths. Belgium was expected to incur a minimum of 46,000 fatalities under NPI mitigation, and 91,000 with uncontrolled spread. At the one year anniversary of the model, it reached 23,000 deaths – among the highest tolls in the world on a per capita basis and an example of extreme political mismanagement of the pandemic under heavy lockdown to be sure, but still only half of Imperial College’s most conservative projection for NPI mitigation.

Just over one year ago, the epidemiology modeling of Neil Ferguson and Imperial College played a preeminent role in shutting down most of the world. The exaggerated forecasts of this modeling team are now impossible to downplay or deny, and extend to almost every country on earth. Indeed, they may well constitute one of the greatest scientific failures in modern human history.


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This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:22 pm to
Ain’t nobody gonna read all that
Posted by Clyde
Member since Jul 2010
1548 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:23 pm to
Yeah this is how I want to spend my Saturday
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:25 pm to
Basically they lied and prophecied gloom and doom,
They destroyed our world, our lives, our businesses and our children.

And the truth is what they had us do was WORSE than letting it run its course
This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:26 pm to
So it’s bullshite, got it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64930 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:26 pm to
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SUB


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Clyde


No one faults either of you for being intellectual midgets. This was posted for the people who actually care and want to bring legitimate discussion to the thread.
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek
Member since Jul 2020
4646 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:27 pm to
Not to mention the 500K number is overstated. Most states don't require Covid being a contributing factor to death to be put on the list; only that the deceased tested positive at some point before or after death.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Ain’t nobody gonna read all that



What are you, a goldfish?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17871 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:29 pm to
Thought this was gonna be about the stupid college football map people love to post.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33145 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:37 pm to
Jesus, '87.

Why not just:

The Imperial College Model (COVID /response projection) sucked arse:

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Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15673 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:38 pm to
I don’t understand any of what I read. I guess I should have gone to college
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17672 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Ferguson



All the while he was out galavanting with his whore across England while preaching this lockdown bullshite. frick this POS.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118876 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:48 pm to
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The Failure of the Imperial College Model is Far Worse Than We Knew


Well, most colleges are ran by liberals who have no common sense, so yes, they are a failure.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
259865 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:50 pm to
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As it turns out though, Ferguson and the Imperial College team were being less than truthful in their attempts to dissociate themselves from Sweden’s observed outcomes.


Shocking.

Which is why we know this is ideologically based, not 100% based on science.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:50 pm to
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Ferguson


Guy should be in jail
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48247 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:02 pm to
This was good practice for when China decides for real to take the down the USA with a biological pathogen that will make C19 look like the sniffles.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9631 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:05 pm to
Can Fauci be his cell mate?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68360 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Ain’t nobody gonna read all that


It basically means stupid democrats saying trust the science were really saying trust a shitty forecast model.


Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5150 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Guy should be in jail



Largest class action lawsuit in history, right after chynuh
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