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Stout and Co.: what’s the most well-rounded AC units to install?

Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31881 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:44 am
Our units are now beyond 15 yrs and we want to get ahead of any Houston Summer failures.

My guess on cost is around $11k

2.5 and 5 ton units.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4855 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:51 am to
Trane

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Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113874 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:53 am to
I saw Stout and well-rounded and thought for sure this was about the poster.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66678 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:56 am to
we had a big American Standard put in this time last year and some related work done to retrofit a new unit. Highly recommend the guy who did our work if you’re in Spring/Woodlands/Tomball/Humble area.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31881 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:08 am to
Definitely interested.

What’s their name?
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3144 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:13 am to
Not brand specific but we are really enjoying our two speed unit. Runs on high during peak load times then either off or low in the evenings. Helps control humidity much better.

There are variable speeds units as well that are even more effecient.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29099 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:13 am to
Rheem
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12134 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:30 am to
My buddy has a Carrier. He has spent 6,000 replacing coils in the last five years. The unit is five years old. The coils are covered but the labor is not.

He says anything but a Carrier.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66678 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:33 am to
Jose Torres AirMax AC - +1 (713) 423-9204

We had a brand new unit, new pad, and some retrofitting work done for ~$7600. John Moore quoted the same job for $11-12k, but everyone knows they’re shiesty AF.

Our old unit was leaking 4lbs of freon a year, no exaggeration. They gave us the freon for the new unit for free, probably standard practice, but when you’ve been spending $300+/year on freon, it seemed like a great deal
This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9341 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 11:15 am to
That's having high efficiency coils for you. More efficient means thinner wall for the tubing.

Most of them are from at least parts made in China regardless of brand name. AC's for homes all suck these days as compared to more robustly built over 25 years ago
Posted by Simon Gruber
Member since Mar 2017
833 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 11:17 am to
Trane
10 year parts and labor warranty
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 11:20 am to
Whichever brand the vendor you trust to service them for the warranty period suggest from my experience generally works out better for me than what I want.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 11:57 am to
I replaced my downstairs main unit with a York dual speed two years ago. The humidity difference in the summer is massive.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29860 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

My guess on cost is around $11k

2.5 and 5 ton units.


try again, its averaging $2k per ton so

2.5 ton = $5k
5 ton = $10k

plan on $15k as the bottom number

as for brand, trane is the best quality with rheem/ruud as a close second
This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 1:09 pm
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7540 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Trane
10 year parts and labor warranty


And you’ll use that warranty in my experience.

10 yrs in now on my 4 ton single speed XR16 paired with a variable speed air handler.

Lost indoor coil under warranty at year 6 and the installers acted like they were doing me a solid to change it out for $1500 in labor and material with Trane supplying the part.

Installing company claimed this was pretty rare but happens even with Trane.

Keep in mind they are rifling these aluminum coils on the inside for efficiency and I believe longevity has become a secondary consideration.

ETA: Trane’s 10 year warranty DOES NOT cover labor, consumables, or refrigerant.

This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25696 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:40 pm to

My buddy has a Carrier. He has spent 6,000 replacing coils in the last five years. The unit is five years old. The coils are covered but the labor is not.

He says anything but a Carrier.




This is my problem since living in my house since 2011. Seemed like every year something went out on our Carrier system and there is a special place in hell for them.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19000 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

That's having high efficiency coils for you. More efficient means thinner wall for the tubing. Most of them are from at least parts made in China regardless of brand name. AC's for homes all suck these days as compared to more robustly built over 25 years ago


Can’t wait till they switch to that 50% propane refrigerant R290.

Houses will be blowing up everywhere.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65497 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

I replaced my downstairs main unit
The rare double subtle brag noted-

1) I have a downstairs
2) My downstairs is air conditioned

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 3:08 pm to
Propane is a great refrigerant. Damn shame its so dangerous.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167070 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 3:50 pm to
You can pay for the higher-end well-known names but honestly, I have always used Goodman and had the least amount of issues with them.
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