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re: State Police has released a video about the Kyren Lacy incident
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:17 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:17 pm to Chad504boy
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nothing official.
I did my best work on measuring time and a distance on google earth i measured from spots on the video earlier today. My best guess on his rate of speed is close to 72mph.
He passed that F150 like it wasn't moving, and I'd assume the rest of the traffic was at or at least near the speed limit given the spacing of the traffic. I would be shocked if he was going under 75mph
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:18 pm to toosleaux
We need a video from the carwash the gold truck pulled into and the Dollar General they passed just before the collision.
Lacy's reckless driving was the catalyst to the whole incident, but we need to see how close Funyon lady was behind the truck. Highly likely she was tailgating and/or speeding.
Lacy's reckless driving was the catalyst to the whole incident, but we need to see how close Funyon lady was behind the truck. Highly likely she was tailgating and/or speeding.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:21 pm to DrrTiger
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Highly likely she was tailgating and/or speeding.
Why is this "highly likely?" She could have been following at the same speed as him and just panicked when he slammed on the brakes. I have to imagine there's video of them leading up the crash as well
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:22 pm to DrrTiger
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but we need to see how close Funyon lady was behind the truck. Highly likely she was tailgating and/or speeding.
its not nearly as relevant as what you think it is. it does not dismiss lacy's actions at all for meeting a tough criteria of his criminal negligence involvement in this accident.
she does not and will not meet the criteria for the charges that lacy originally received no matter her carelessness of being too close and ended up being in a bad predicament to react appropriately to a chain of events.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:25 pm to TigerGman
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One has to do with his state of mind. The other has to do with undeniable facts in evidence.
Look up the definitions of negligent homicide, felony hit-and-run, and reckless operation of a motor vehicle. All of these carry different legal definitions, but to even proceed to trial with all of these, the necessary mens rea and actus reus has to exist.
Mens Rea - 'The intention or knowledge of wrongdoing that constitutes part of a crime, as opposed to the action or conduct of the accused."
Actus Reus - "The action or conduct which is a constituent element of a crime, as opposed to the mental state of the accused."
This is why the Lafourche DA stated that the evidence didn't support that he "should have known" that his actions were the cause of the crash that happened approximately 72 yards in front of him.
... and there are a lot of variables that show that he shouldn't have known that the accident would have occurred, primarily the actions of the driver tailgating the gold truck.
The DA was very competent, because she knew that before you could even get to whether the evidence that was included in the report met all of the elements of each of the crimes for which he was accused, she would have to prove that he knew that his actions were the cause of the accident that led to Mr. Hall's death (mens rea).
So, you look seriously stupid saying anything else about your knowledge of whether Kyren Lacy was culpable for what occurred, considering these things.
Yet another clown that doesn't know how to leave the lawyering to the lawyers.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:28 pm to dnm3305
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dnm3305
quote:Just so you understand, the driver of the white vehicle that actually killed the person is an extremely ghetto black woman
Yes, but only the blacks
So, maybe you can hold your little racial temper tantrums down for those of us that are putting majority of fault on the driver of the white vehicle with “being a no good black”
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:30 pm to toosleaux
Truly unbelievable that there are actually people that believe Lacy had nothing to do with it when he was literally the main catalyst, and there are alot of them.
We have fallen so far as a nation. So many dishonest people out there.
Those same people actually believe a cop killed George Floyd. Overlay a venn diagram and it’s the same people. Truly disgraceful.
We have fallen so far as a nation. So many dishonest people out there.
Those same people actually believe a cop killed George Floyd. Overlay a venn diagram and it’s the same people. Truly disgraceful.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:31 pm to Chad504boy
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its not nearly as relevant as what you think it is. it does not dismiss lacy's actions at all
Was she avoiding Lacy or was she avoiding slamming into the back of the truck in front of her? I think that's very relevant.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:32 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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Mens Rea - 'The intention or knowledge of wrongdoing that constitutes part of a crime, as opposed to the action or conduct of the accused."
Actus Reus - "The action or conduct which is a constituent element of a crime, as opposed to the mental state of the accused."
This is why the Lafourche DA stated that the evidence didn't support that he "should have known" that his actions were the cause of the crash that happened approximately 72 yards in front of him.
... and there are a lot of variables that show that he shouldn't have known that the accident would have occurred, primarily the actions of the driver tailgating the gold truck.
The DA was very competent, because she knew that before you could even get to whether the evidence that was included in the report met all of the elements of each of the crimes for which he was accused, she would have to prove that he knew that his actions were the cause of the accident that led to Mr. Hall's death (mens rea).
So that is not at all what mens rea means as it entails negligent homicide.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:33 pm to DrrTiger
Direct quotes from woman
• Right before the crash occurs, "I'm looking at the pickup truck in front of me, that's all I see for the moment."
• Right before the crash occurs, "I'm looking at the pickup truck in front of me, that's all I see for the moment."
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:37 pm to lsupride87
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Direct quotes from woman
• Right before the crash occurs, "I'm looking at the pickup truck in front of me, that's all I see for the moment."
This is actually what she said:
"I just know the truck was stopping on brakes. The other car was trying to pass the other cars; I was trying to dodge and not hit him by coming around."
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:38 pm to DrrTiger
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I think that's very relevant.
you can think all you want. its not nearly as relevant as your are desperately wanting it to be. she's partially at fault for causing the accident. There's no argument but Lacy is not innocent at all. Which is what this entire tense conversation is about.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:41 pm to Antonio Moss
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So that is not at all what mens rea means as it entails negligent homicide
I know, moron.
For negligent homicide, the required mental state is criminal negligence, which means a person failed to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk of harm and that failure was a gross deviation from the standard of care of a reasonable person.
Criminal negligence exists when, although neither specific nor general criminal intent is present, there is such disregard of the interest of others that the offender's conduct amounts to a gross deviation below the standard of care expected to be maintained by a reasonably careful man under like circumstances.
Unless you can connect HIS negligence in driving through a non-passing area with the driver's negligence in following too closely behind the vehicle in front of her and veering into a lane of oncoming traffic, then no dice.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:44 pm to toosleaux
Okay, I have seen post on social media. I haven't been able to watch the video until now.
From my understanding. So when the initial video was released it appeared as if there was a wreck and then seconds later the green charger approaches the scene. It appeared as if the wreck happened, Lacy had nothing to do with it, however; this shows that him driving at a high speed in the wrong lane (trying to pass up traffic) is likely the cause of the wreck.
Based on what the truck driver said, the car reacted to the green charger. Is that accurate?
From my understanding. So when the initial video was released it appeared as if there was a wreck and then seconds later the green charger approaches the scene. It appeared as if the wreck happened, Lacy had nothing to do with it, however; this shows that him driving at a high speed in the wrong lane (trying to pass up traffic) is likely the cause of the wreck.
Based on what the truck driver said, the car reacted to the green charger. Is that accurate?
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:45 pm to Chad504boy
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its not nearly as relevant as your are desperately wanting it to be
I'm not "desperately wanting" it to be anything. I already said Lacy was the catalyst to what occurred.
However, if the lady wasn't maintaining a safe distance between the truck in front of her and she swerved into oncoming traffic to avoid rear ending THAT TRUCK, she's culpable as well.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:45 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Here it is fully in order
This is actually what she said:
The truck "steps on his brakes first so it siows down. But then he does it again and this time it's really hard.” "That's when you can see on the side, the car is trying to get back over." But before he can get over, this truck stops in the middle, like on the breaks hard." "It's either I run into him or I try to get out of the way."
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:45 pm to OweO
I just saw on WAFB that the NAACP is calling on the head of State Police to be fired. What fricking video did they watch? At 4:00 minutes, a black dude literally says the green charger caused the wreck.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:46 pm to toosleaux
The fault is between two black people
There is no racial element
There is no racial element
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:48 pm to dnm3305
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I can’t believe people can even entertain it to be anything but this.
They defend him because he is black, played for LSU, or both.
Otherwise no one would care.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:50 pm to DrrTiger
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she's culpable as well.
not criminally though.
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