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re: State Police has released a video about the Kyren Lacy incident
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
He wasnt moving at that speed when he got back in his lane, he would have hit the guy in front of him. He was certainly slowing down after the passing of the set of 4 cars.
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:49 pm to The Third Leg
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He wasnt moving at that speed when he got back in his lane, he would have hit the guy in front of him. He was certainly slowing down after the passing of the set of 4 cars.
You're only considering half of the vehicles in motion.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:49 pm to TigerGman
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Had he obeyed the law, there would not be two dead bodies up here for discussion
Wrong, and if you would have written this for your analysis and conclusion on a law school final exam or on the bar exam, you would have failed the section on Torts.
There's a reason why the Lafourche DA made the following conclusion:
"The evidence supported in the report does not support that Kyren Lacy should have known his actions were the cause of the crash that happened approximately 72 years in front of him."
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:49 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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Had he obeyed the law, there would not be two dead bodies up here for discussion
Wrong,
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:50 pm to toosleaux
Excellent work
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:51 pm to civiltiger07
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What does that mean if Lacy is in the proper lane of travel already at that point?
If you go to the LSP video and start watching around 2:15, they isolate video that shows both the wreck and Lacy merging back into the proper lane of travel. These events occur at nearly the same time. However, we know that the gold truck veered and braked before the following vehicle collided with the deceased's vehcile, which means that when the chain of events that ulimately lead to the accident begins, Lacy is still in the wrong lane of travel.
Also, take into account that gold truck claims he was traveling at approximately 30 mph towards Lacy. At an adjusted relative speed of 110 mph, a collision would occur in less than two seconds from a distance of 100 yards.
So just using video and math, if everything would have remained constant, Lacy would have hit the Gold Truck in less than 2 seconds from the point in which he merges back into the proper lane.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:52 pm to demtigers73
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Trooper: "Make sure you put, you had to slam on the brakes, locked up your brakes up, because of the green charger, make sure you write that in there."
Gold truck driver: "I didn't even brake that hard, I didn't skid or anything, I wasn't going that fast."
Gold truck driver: "That lady caused that wreck."
Sooner or later, all the body Cam footage will come out. No doubt in my mind the old man told the Trooper that verbatim at the scene of the crash. The trooper was following up reminding him of what he said. We can speculate why he changed his mind, but my guess is he started thinking about things and panicked scared maybe some would would say he was also at fault for breaking too hard. He's like 78 years old. Old people easily get confused . shite like that happens in the real world.
And at any rate, eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. The old man isn;t the last word on who caused the accident.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:54 pm to The Third Leg
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Well there is zero chance he was going 80 mph, so….
The question is whether the police and courts had probable cause for a warrant, not the ultimate verdict at trial. One of the witnesses, in their statements, estimates that Lacy was traveling at 80 mph.
Again, this video from the LSP makes it pretty clear that probable cause for a warrant existed.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
quote:isn’t that what the officer was told by the witnesses? The officer wasn’t there, he has to go by what he was told
It’s not on accident the officer didn’t include the white vehicles lack of ability to simply brake and instead tried to make the chargers actions the direct reason it swerved into oncoming traffic
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:57 pm to whoa
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said his first call after the crash was to a BR personal injury lawyer. Did he call Gordon?
He had an NIL deal with Gordon, he definitely called him for legal advice. Hence turning himself in later
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're only considering half of the vehicles in motion.
i've already explained this. the most important part of this was when lacy was 123 yards completely in wrong lane driving at a speed of about 72.5 mph in front of gold truck driving likely 50 mph. that's a thought process instantly of in 2 seconds moment time there could be a head on collision. that's a combined rate of 122 mph.
Lacy swerving back over does not get lacy off the hook for the reactions he caused by his reckless and illegal driving at extremely dangerous rates of speed.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:02 pm to LNCHBOX
[quote]Is anyone arguing that ONLY Lacy is responsible for this crash? I have been gone from teh thread for a while, but I don't recall anyone making that claim.[/quote
Yes, but only the blacks
Yes, but only the blacks
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:04 pm to LNCHBOX
Speed limit 40. If he’s at 80 when he gets back in his lane, he’s closing that gap quick even if that car is going 50. Both stopped clean without any threat of collision.
So while we looking at how long it takes to close 72 yards at 80mph, maybe we consider how much distance is generally needed to stop from 80mph, which is apparently 400-500’
He was probably slowed to 55 and continuing his deceleration at the time of impact. I’m just guessing based on average distance requirements for stopping at that speed and the video showing him stopping firmly, but not slamming on brakes.
So while we looking at how long it takes to close 72 yards at 80mph, maybe we consider how much distance is generally needed to stop from 80mph, which is apparently 400-500’
He was probably slowed to 55 and continuing his deceleration at the time of impact. I’m just guessing based on average distance requirements for stopping at that speed and the video showing him stopping firmly, but not slamming on brakes.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:05 pm to The Third Leg
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Speed limit 40.
ok now I called it
ETA: Safe stop distance is more like 600' at 80mph, but that's for one vehicle going 80 which means only one reaction time instead of two
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:07 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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Wrong, and if you would have written this for your analysis and conclusion on a law school final exam or on the bar exam, you would have failed the section on Torts.
There's a reason why the Lafourche DA made the following conclusion:
"The evidence supported in the report does not support that Kyren Lacy should have known his actions were the cause of the crash that happened approximately 72 years in front of him."
What are you stupid, or just pretending to be? Knowing, or should have known, your actions WERE ( emphasis on the carefully worded use of the word were)
the cause of the wreck is not the same thing AS your actions caused the wreck. One has to do with his state of mind. The other has to do with undeniable facts in evidence. You wouldn't even get past the LSAT with your fifth grade logic and reading comprehension levels .
And BTW, doesn't say much about the competence of the DA that made the either.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:10 pm to Chad504boy
Did any of you watch both videos? After seeing the video evidence from the gas station and then listening to the 18 wheeler driver speak, anything he has said needs to be thrown out. I’m not sure he saw the accident. He tried to say that the charger slipped through prior to the accident happening.
I agree that Lacey should not have been driving like he was, but the gold truck driver was clear that he didn’t slam on his breaks. That the lady behind him caused the accident. All of those other eye witnesses are irrelevant. She was traveling too close. He wasn’t at the scene when the trooper arrived to be interviewed so the trooper was led down the wrong path by these other witnesses. Let’s say the gold truck was slowing down to turn off the road, lady would have slammed on her breaks anyway because she was traveling too fast and too close, not paying attention. She probably jumped at the first thing that she could think of to deflect blame from herself.
After the video evidence came out, I can’t see how these charges weren’t just completely dropped.
And those saying he fled the scene, my understanding is he had a football workout to make. Chances are he didn’t want to be late and as he wasn’t involved in the accident and they had other eye witnesses, why would he stay?
I agree that Lacey should not have been driving like he was, but the gold truck driver was clear that he didn’t slam on his breaks. That the lady behind him caused the accident. All of those other eye witnesses are irrelevant. She was traveling too close. He wasn’t at the scene when the trooper arrived to be interviewed so the trooper was led down the wrong path by these other witnesses. Let’s say the gold truck was slowing down to turn off the road, lady would have slammed on her breaks anyway because she was traveling too fast and too close, not paying attention. She probably jumped at the first thing that she could think of to deflect blame from herself.
After the video evidence came out, I can’t see how these charges weren’t just completely dropped.
And those saying he fled the scene, my understanding is he had a football workout to make. Chances are he didn’t want to be late and as he wasn’t involved in the accident and they had other eye witnesses, why would he stay?
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:11 pm to LSUlove
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Did any of you watch both videos? After seeing the video evidence from the gas station and then listening to the 18 wheeler driver speak, anything he has said needs to be thrown out. I’m not sure he saw the accident. He tried to say that the charger slipped through prior to the accident happening.
I agree that Lacey should not have been driving like he was, but the gold truck driver was clear that he didn’t slam on his breaks. That the lady behind him caused the accident. All of those other eye witnesses are irrelevant. She was traveling too close. He wasn’t at the scene when the trooper arrived to be interviewed so the trooper was led down the wrong path by these other witnesses. Let’s say the gold truck was slowing down to turn off the road, lady would have slammed on her breaks anyway because she was traveling too fast and too close, not paying attention. She probably jumped at the first thing that she could think of to deflect blame from herself.
After the video evidence came out, I can’t see how these charges weren’t just completely dropped.
And those saying he fled the scene, my understanding is he had a football workout to make. Chances are he didn’t want to be late and as he wasn’t involved in the accident and they had other eye witnesses, why would he stay?
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:12 pm to LSUlove
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Did any of you watch both videos?
is this a serious question. you are arguing with the virtuoso of this incident. You stop typing now. You just read my post history and take notes my love.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:13 pm to LNCHBOX
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ok now I called it
ETA: Safe stop distance is more like 600' at 80mph, but that's for one vehicle going 80 which means only one reaction time instead of two
Is there any data on how fast he was going? I know there was a black box from the white car, but is the only source on KL's speed an estimate from a witness?
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:14 pm to Ingeniero
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Is there any data on how fast he was going?
nothing official.
I did my best work on measuring time and a distance on google earth i measured from spots on the video earlier today. My best guess on his rate of speed is close to 72mph.
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