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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:12 pm to doublecutter
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:12 pm to doublecutter
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says Fuller was a stand up guy, pretty sharp, and is a well respected criminal attorney.
I literally just read the exact opposite reviews of Fuller. that he is a known liar.
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Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:14 pm to beauchristopher
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Witnesses say they saw Hayes with the gun approach Smith's vehicle.
who is reporting that?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:15 pm to SirSaintly
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Let's not forget, Will Smith has had anger issues in the past and was arrested for battery of his wife. He was no angel. He didn't deserve to die, but no one here truly knows what happened yet
He doesn't have a violent past.
He drug his wife out of a club by her hair.. He didn't beat her and she didn't have any injuries, minor (if at all)
That was it.
I think it's wrong to do that, but he didn't exactly beat or hurt his wife.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:16 pm to SirSaintly
Well think about it. The entire city would like to string this dude up. Gotta take the offensive. No way this dude gets a fair trial in Orleans Parish. Good lawyering.
Must have enough left over from lawsuit over daddy to buy a hummer and pay for a mouthpiece.
Must have enough left over from lawsuit over daddy to buy a hummer and pay for a mouthpiece.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:18 pm to SirSaintly
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Court records show Hayes was arrested in August 2010 on suspicion of illegally carrying a weapon while in possession of a controlled dangerous substance
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:20 pm to SirSaintly
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I don't think a thug POS would have been the first to call 911 and then wait for the cops.
Doesn't mean he isn't accountable for his actions.
I am sick of pussies like Hayes who are the aggressor, go out of their way to hunt someone down and confront them.. Then when they recognize they can't defend themselves (either getting their arse deservedly beat or about to be beat) they take the easy way out and murder someone with their gun. this shite has to stop.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:21 pm to Mung
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Must have enough left over from lawsuit over daddy to buy a hummer and pay for a mouthpiece.
Can't be a typical thug if he still has any of that lawsuit money leftover 5 yrs later. It wasn't more than $125k. Most would have blown through that little amount in 5 yrs.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:22 pm to SirSaintly
You lose all credibility when you hunt someone down and purposely rear end them.. and get out to approach their vehicle carrying a gun (even if it's true they first hit you in an accident)
He has to be accountable for his actions/behavior. Period.
None of this ever had to be.
He has to be accountable for his actions/behavior. Period.
None of this ever had to be.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:25 pm to beauchristopher
So Hayes doesnt even need his day in court according to you?
you dont even have your facts straight
you dont even have your facts straight
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:28 pm to beauchristopher
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I am sick of pussies like Hayes who are the aggressor, go out of their way to hunt someone down and confront them.
IF, and this is a big IF, his car was hit first what would be wrong with him following the person and confronting them. Obviously crashing into them and the rest is overboard but if someone damages your property you should follow them and be able to confront them if you want to.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:28 pm to beauchristopher
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He has to be accountable for his actions/behavior. Period.
I completely agree, but I still don't think we know the whole story. If it comes out that he followed Smith, then purposely ran into him, grabbed his gun, jumped out the car and ran over to Smith's SUV and fired multiple shots into the car, then yes, he should be locked up for life.
I still don't get why he didn't flee the scene though. Why call 911 and wait. Again, I think there is more to this story.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:30 pm to SirSaintly
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I still don't get why he didn't flee the scene though. Why call 911 and wait. Again, I think there is more to this story.
This
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:30 pm to Lester Earl
I hope you never have to experience this first hand.
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So Hayes doesnt even need his day in court according to you?
Never said that, idiot. Simply saying he should be accountable in some sort of form.
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you dont even have your facts straight
For example?
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According to police reports and the Times-Picayune, Cardell Hayes, who was in possession of a semi-automatic handgun, left his Hummer, “exchanged words” with Smith, who was still in his car, and allegedly fired several shots through the windshield. Smith’s wife left the car screaming, and Hayes allegedly shot her twice in the leg. Smith died at the scene, slumped over the steering wheel.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:32 pm to Lester Earl
Is it not a fact that this guy shot and killed Will Smith in his own car?
Is that not a fact?
Is that not a fact?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:33 pm to beauchristopher
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I literally just read the exact opposite reviews of Fuller. that he is a known liar.
I [b]literally[/b don't give a shite what you read.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:34 pm to dabigfella
quote:Maybe I'm misreading it, but the lawyer doesn't really clarify or say specifically that Smiths car was the one that originally did the hit and run, right?
If this is true, then smith or his friends are POS. Still nobody deserved to die but I've had this happen to me and its impossible to chase someone whose driving like a reckless animal trying to get away. Will be interesting to see if he really placed a call telling cops he was chasing them
I guess it can be assumed, or I'm just reading it incorrectly.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:34 pm to lsu480
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IF, and this is a big IF, his car was hit first what would be wrong with him following the person and confronting them. Obviously crashing into them and the rest is overboard but if someone damages your property you should follow them and be able to confront them if you want to.
That's all fine but you don't get to just shoot people on the street. I feel some of you are being purposely obtuse for some strange reason.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:37 pm to beauchristopher
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According to police reports and the Times-Picayune, Cardell Hayes, who was in possession of a semi-automatic handgun, left his Hummer, “exchanged words” with Smith, who was still in his car, and allegedly fired several shots through the windshield. Smith’s wife left the car screaming, and Hayes allegedly shot her twice in the leg. Smith died at the scene, slumped over the steering wheel.
where is this from? cause you can clearly see in the photos there are no bullet holes in Smith's windshield. Like i said, everyone is entitled to their opinion but at least base it on the facts
And that is the first ive heard of Hayes shooting at Smith's wife as she ran from the car
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:38 pm to lsu480
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IF, and this is a big IF, his car was hit first what would be wrong with him following the person and confronting them. Obviously crashing into them and the rest is overboard but if someone damages your property you should follow them and be able to confront them if you want to.
Not sure it would be wise to crash into them and then approach them in their vehicle, especially late at night. Not sure retaliation is exactly a good idea. I understand trying to pull them over and saying, hey what is the deal.. and tell them you are calling the police.. etc.. but to take it all into your own hands is playing with fire.
If someone did hit me late at night.. Not sure I would get out holding the gun. (Concealed maybe) It's not worth it.. If he was getting the plate number that is fine.. but why not wait for the police? What good is going to come out of a heated confrontation, especially when you are carrying a gun according to witnesses.
Any ways, it would be nice to see pics of the vehicles.
My whole thing yet again is how are you going to justify shooting someone through their vehicle that you rammed into. It will be great to see all the facts come out.
Again back to Lesterearl, no matter what, he is still responsible for his part of the wreck. That's the main thing. He is still liable and responsible for his part in this. I don't know to what extent.. but I never said he doesn't deserve court. Come on. And whether he intended to shoot a 2nd person, he did..
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:39 pm to beauchristopher
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fired several shots through the windshield.
Smith was shot in the back. What did smith turn around in the seat. If this is true why didn't smith pin him between smiths car and the impala.
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