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Ingeniero
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
Not all ponds are designed to be dry. They usually design them with at least some static water surface because no one likes to look at a big empty pond; they sell it as a water feature.

Stout is right that it's essentially a guessing game, but hopefully local politicians start to do their part by requiring reductions in flow (St. Tammany already does as far as I know) rather than just maintaining.

ETA: and the guy above me is exactly right. Maintenance needs to be written into code too because once it's permitted it's basically a free-for-all.
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WylieTiger
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
Welcome to St. Tammany Parish since 1998.


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Sidicous
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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Black Bears Matter
My Aunt in West Monroe had a black bear and cub up her tree in the backyard a couple months ago. If my Uncle were still alive he'd have called LADWF and had them tranquilize and relocate it. Aunt just stayed inside till they left. It's the 1st time real wildlife other than rabbits and occasional deer have appeared on the property.

She's lived in that house 50+ years now right in the middle of WM essentially.


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ItNeverRains
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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I think it falls more onto the city that keeps granting these licenses and approvals while not addressing infrastructure properly. It’s bull shite.


Correct. The municipality holds the bonded money from developer and until he meets all their req’s they don’t release bonded money


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wickowick
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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required to move wildlife


How does one do this?


Falco
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
If you know an area has X amount of a certain wildlife you move them rather than them starting to incorporate into the subdivision you just built


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Loup
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
Where would they move wildlife? When you remove habitat the wildlife only moves temporarily. You just end up with less wildlife


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kengel2
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
The cost will be passed on. So should land owners be responsible?


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ForLSU56
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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keeps granting these licenses and approvals while not addressing infrastructure properly


That is Ascension and Livingston parishes in a nutshell.


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Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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That is Ascension and Livingston parishes in a nutshell.


Most of LP and AP they should start mandating no regrading of the property being built on and require new construction to be pier and beam instead of slabs.
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BHM
Member since Jun 2012
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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So should they be required to move wildlife



Is there wildlife in your neighborhood? No, so technically they did move the wildlife.


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TimeOutdoors
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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The rule is they can't put more water into a ditch than what was previously happening naturally.


Not exactly. They can’t increase the flow, but the quantity of water will be more. Also the design is based on a particular year storm. Most cities/counties I’ve done designs for require design for 25 year critical. Some DOT’s require 100 year critical.

Someone noted that wildlife was moved. Only time I’ve ever been required is when the species was protected (gopher turtle).

Drainage for the individual homesite is up to the builder/home owner.

I’ve always been a fan of regional storm water management personally. Instead of each development designing for their 100-1500 acres I like areas of larger acreages designing for and installing larger systems and then the property owners being restricted to what it was designed for (typically a coop situation). This ends up with larger retention/detention systems that are easier to maintain. It also makes for a nice public amenity when done correctly.


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saintsfan225
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
In Ascension Parish the developers dont give a shite on who they flood and neither does the parish council (screw all those guys especially Lawler who is a lying two faced peice of shit
), Family land that has never flooded (high and dry in 2016) has flooded twice since then. We sold it so god bless the family that bought it but we could see what was coming.


biglego
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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how it impacts the previous wildlife.


What can possibly be done to help wildlife after clearcutting forest to build more houses?


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real turf fan
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
In Atlanta, some friends of mine work with developers to save native plants that are in the area to be developed.

Re Drainage, one man's fix is another man's flood. The subdivision developments are too small to do the changes that need to be done.
An example is a co-worker in Houston whose brother had bought in a well drained long established subdivision that suddenly started flooding. So the brothers took a walk until they found the problem. Another subdivision had dumped a lot of dirt in an empty lot, only that lot was drainage in heavy rains. So my friend might have known how to move soil quickly, and might have been gifted a rental coupon for a rent-all many miles away and might have taken a piece of machinery out to test drive it for a while.

It's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask a committee for permission.


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Falco
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
Our family land that had never previously flooded, flooded in 2016 and hasn't since. Water has gotten high since but no floods. I hate every new subdivision in the area


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dewster
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
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Except they seem to stay full all the time, not much capacity before dumping into surrounding waterways


That’s what kind of confuses me. Most of these retention ponds don’t have a lot of head room before they overflow into city/local drainage.

Can’t see them helping that much. IDK if that’s a design flaw or a maintenance thing. But eventually these ponds will need some expensive rework.
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Celery
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re: Should developers be required to fix drainage and wildlife issues
Where I live the city has pretty strict codes regarding both drainage and environmental impact, not just for new developments but for existing home/land alterations. Is that not typical?


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