re: Settle a drunken argument: Tyson vs Bruce Lee no holds barred KO match

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Whether or not he could land that gouge is the question. But then you're taking away the beauty of the fight right?

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It's a fight who cares about the "beauty" of it. All your fancy bullshite goes right out the window when facing a giant like Tyson. Strength and size trump your bullshite karate moves.

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unjustifiably feared

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Mike Tyson.

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ok

Also on the subject of eye gouging, we have some limited real evidence as to the effectiveness of eye gouging against trained opponents.

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Yuki Nakai was eye gouged and blinded in his right eye during a professional fight that he won.

Eye gouging, while potentially effective, is just not supportable as some mythical deadly fight ender using real world evidence or logic.

I feel bad for anyone who actually believes that Bruce lee would win in a fight against tyson. The only small person who would have had a chance against Tyson would be Royce Gracie and thats assuming he can get him to the ground with out taking a punch first.

Or Max Baer

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I've never seen someone so unjustifiably feared as Mike Tyson.

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This is another portion of the argument that should have drawn parallels.

Tyson was a classic bully - a hard puncher, yes, but when challenged (particularly by Douglas and Holyfield), he could be pushed, punched and punished.

When outclassed (Lennox Lewis) - he looked very human.

All the "legends" of Bruce Lee really fighting (and some are by credible witnesses - others could be amplified apocrypha) - not point fighting, no tournament fighting, but real fighting - are, no doubt, built up by his Hollywood image.

However, there is no question that he was an incredibly well-conditioned athlete - from an objective standpoint, had a freakish strength-to-weight ratio, was fast and agile with extremely quick hands, and, more importantly, quick feet.

Likewise, as we are pulling out of this discussion - Tyson was not a classicly trained boxer, but rather a "tamed" brawler. He was an accomplished fighter under a no rules system - the street. He was probably a little too stubby to have ever been a top heavyweight boxer. But D'amato saw something - a fire, an aggressiveness, coupled with those quick powerful hands and forged him into a "good enough" boxer to put those hands in position to win championships.

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Wow. Throughout history there have been people who literally used their hands for survival against others just like them, and you're telling me a guy who got worked over by a 34 year old Evander Holyfield bests them all, huh?

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Tyson definitely declined with age. He got too heavy and he stopped training. When he was in his prime he weighed 215 and had unbelievably fast head movement and hands. As he grew older he stopped training and became a stationary target. He also put on weight, even though much ofit was muscle, and got much slower.

Lee, no doubt.

If we are talking a true no hold bar match, definitely Lee.

If we are talking putting them in a boxing ring and making them fight, more of a debate.

Put them in a true fighting arena and Lee will be able to completely immobilize Tyson. His style will allow him to take out knees, break arms, etc. Tyson has the strength, but Lee's mastery of fighting would allow him to prevail.

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His style will allow him to take out knees, break arms, etc

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seriously? Sounds like u believe the movies a bit too much.