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School district agrees to pay $3 million after unaddressed bullying led to 8 yo’s suicide
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:46 pm
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For at least a year, Gabriel Taye, 8, was severely bullied at his elementary school in Cincinnati.
Gabriel, a third grader who dreamed of joining the military and liked to dress up in neck ties, was punched, beaten and mocked repeatedly by students at Carson Elementary School, according to a federal lawsuit.
On Jan. 24, 2017, a student yanked him to the floor in a restroom, knocking him unconscious, the lawsuit said.
Video footage shows Gabriel on the floor, unconscious, for at least seven minutes as other children walked by, some kicking him, others pointing fingers. His mother, unaware of what had happened, sent him back to school two days later.
Gabriel was bullied again. When he went home that afternoon, he took one of his neckties and hanged himself from his bunk bed.
More than four years after his death by suicide, the Cincinnati Public Schools has agreed to pay his family $3 million and to create a more robust anti-bullying system that would be monitored twice a year by lawyers for Gabriel’s parents.
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America has among the worst systems in the world when it comes to addressing bullying. In many other nations, even western “modern” nations, there is zero tolerance.
I do get why schools here are so reluctant. We live in lawsuit nation
Also, many attempts to address bullying violate “disparate impact” laws.
I.e: if a school enacts a zero tolerance bullying guideline, it cannot disproportionally result in certain groups being punished.
They don’t have these silly restrictions in other nations
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Thanks for passing along this happy story
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Kill the parents of the bullies
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:a meaningless word that PR flacks have recently fallen in love with
create a more robust anti-bullying system
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I.e: if a school enacts a zero tolerance bullying guideline, it cannot disproportionally result in certain groups being punished.
Now that’s hilariously ironic
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
He was probably the only decent kid in that school.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
every school needs a soldier stationed to protect from school shootings, in between school shootings the soldier should be prepared to melee a bully with the butt of his rifle if it can be proven that he bullied another student. Would only take a couple of incidents to show that they mean business.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I can’t imagine that happening to one of my kids. Unfortunately we live in such a shite society that if the teacher were to do something about it they’d have parents of the bullying kids breathing down their throat. And unfortunately many of the teachers just quit giving a shite. We send our kids to crap schools with unqualified teachers who don’t have the power to address things reasonably as they come up, we feed the kids garbage food at $1 a day, don’t really educate them so much as teach them to take standardized tests. Many times prioritize sports over everything else. Instead of teaching English and math and science we teach them to be victims and everything is about skin color. When we do teach science they have to tip toe around it because it’s become so political.
I dunno we’ve just failed our kids.
I dunno we’ve just failed our kids.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:13 pm to EuphoricSSP
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every school needs a soldier stationed to protect from school shootings, in between school shootings the soldier should be prepared to melee a bully with the butt of his rifle if it can be proven that he bullied another student. Would only take a couple of incidents to show that they mean business.
Militarizing our schools isn’t the answer. The likelihood of a school falling victim to a mass shooting is next to nothing no matter what the media says. But even on the rare chance it happens commando joe isn’t going to be able to stop it, not before a host of kids are dead anyways. The money would be better spent elsewhere.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:14 pm to EuphoricSSP
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between school shootings the soldier should be prepared to melee a bully with the butt of his rifle if it can be proven that he bullied another student.
Maybe not this far, but bring back the paddle. Start in elementary school. By the time those frickers get to 6th grade they'll understand. A ruler over the knuckles or the arse, especially in front of their peers, is a lot less likely to end in suicide.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:15 pm to baseballmind1212
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Maybe not this far, but bring back the paddle. Start in elementary school. By the time those frickers get to 6th grade they'll understand. A ruler over the knuckles or the arse, especially in front of their peers, is a lot less likely to end in suicide.
I don't think militarizing schools is the answer, I was just being over the top. But yes, paddling would be a good call
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Tragedy. Can’t fathom as a parent of same age. I wouldn’t think mine are smart enough to tie a knot or create a contraption capable of killing them without my knowing.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:48 pm to Nephropidae
My kid was getting bullied by a kid of opposite color this year, and he never told me about it until he'd exhausted his options. This bully was calling my kid the n-word and tormenting him for no reason like dumping out his backpack, throwing wet paper towels over the stall in bathroom, overly aggressive at PE, etc. P.S., my kid isn't black.
Reported to teacher. Nothing. Reported to counselor. Nothing. Reported to grade vice principal. Nothing.
Had my kid confirm without a shadow of a doubt that he hadn't provoked the bully (he's not that type of kid), and for him to verify when and who he talked to about it, and to cite as many specific instances as possible.
I ended up sending an email with all this info directly to the Principal asking to discuss this, and got a call back from a vice principal. Principal never addressed me directly. They talked to staff, reviewed video, and confirmed it to be true. They changed the bully's schedule so they wouldn't cross paths, have PE together, etc etc... and the very next week my kid tells me this kid confronted him about "snitching." In other words, they exercised zero discretion in the matter. Luckily my kid handled it with humor and the issue just seemed to go away.
I don't envy any kid having to go thru school in this environment. Forced into scenarios they have no control over, with staff that often don't care or are too scared to do anything about.
This school was the beneficiary of some new boundary lines that roped in tons of apartments, and the composition of the school changed dramatically...dramatically... in just one year. Forcing cultures to collide without any really good reason. I think the admin are just a bunch of cowards, unwilling to address unruly kids for fear of being labeled...the R word.
My kid isn't a big kid, but he does do Jujitsu. I told him that I'd never be mad at him for defending himself and bloodying a nose if it was necessary.
Reported to teacher. Nothing. Reported to counselor. Nothing. Reported to grade vice principal. Nothing.
Had my kid confirm without a shadow of a doubt that he hadn't provoked the bully (he's not that type of kid), and for him to verify when and who he talked to about it, and to cite as many specific instances as possible.
I ended up sending an email with all this info directly to the Principal asking to discuss this, and got a call back from a vice principal. Principal never addressed me directly. They talked to staff, reviewed video, and confirmed it to be true. They changed the bully's schedule so they wouldn't cross paths, have PE together, etc etc... and the very next week my kid tells me this kid confronted him about "snitching." In other words, they exercised zero discretion in the matter. Luckily my kid handled it with humor and the issue just seemed to go away.
I don't envy any kid having to go thru school in this environment. Forced into scenarios they have no control over, with staff that often don't care or are too scared to do anything about.
This school was the beneficiary of some new boundary lines that roped in tons of apartments, and the composition of the school changed dramatically...dramatically... in just one year. Forcing cultures to collide without any really good reason. I think the admin are just a bunch of cowards, unwilling to address unruly kids for fear of being labeled...the R word.
My kid isn't a big kid, but he does do Jujitsu. I told him that I'd never be mad at him for defending himself and bloodying a nose if it was necessary.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not reading this
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
8 years old getting that level of bullying is abnormal. That’s horrible.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:04 pm to concrete_tiger
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Reported to teacher. Nothing. Reported to counselor. Nothing. Reported to grade vice principal. Nothing.
Unfortunately this is what happens. My kids were picked on - not necessarily bullied bc they are taller than most kids their age and are not easily intimidated - and now we homeschool
Chances are the teachers are bullies themselves bc they were never ‘called’ to be teachers - just wanted a job - and they like to see people get picked on too
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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do get why schools here are so reluctant. We live in lawsuit nation
There's the problem. Screw that shite, discipline needs to be swift af. Maybe some fed up parents should create schools where it's not discouraged and parents sign waivers.
8 years old??? ffs that's terrible that nobody stepped up to help this child.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
As a parent of kids around this age,
As a former teacher,
As someone who was bullied in school at points…
I’m not sure what to think. Give me a bit to compose my thoughts
ETA1:first, no young kid should even have suicide as a thought in their head. I mean, they are children. Innocent and sweet and if any gods are just uncorrupted by the madness and destitution of this world. Parents, protect your children. Forces are at work to taint their pure little minds.
But…at the same time we cannot baby them. We know the world is cruel, and so softness will only make them weak and vulnerable.
They must learn that learning can hurt. You give them a knife when they say they are ready, and they will bleed when they cut themselves. But the wound will heal, and the scar remains.
Pain is a teacher. We should not shy from it. We may break bones and bear scars but we learn lessons.
My boy broke his arms on the monkey bars. He cried. It hurt.
But he healed and I helped him back up on the monkey bars this weekend. He wasn’t scared. And he got across. We need to foster in them a sense of never surrender, never say die, and that no matter how beaten down and broken we might feel, it ain’t over until WE say it’s over.
And we NEVER say it’s over.
As a former teacher,
As someone who was bullied in school at points…
I’m not sure what to think. Give me a bit to compose my thoughts
ETA1:first, no young kid should even have suicide as a thought in their head. I mean, they are children. Innocent and sweet and if any gods are just uncorrupted by the madness and destitution of this world. Parents, protect your children. Forces are at work to taint their pure little minds.
But…at the same time we cannot baby them. We know the world is cruel, and so softness will only make them weak and vulnerable.
They must learn that learning can hurt. You give them a knife when they say they are ready, and they will bleed when they cut themselves. But the wound will heal, and the scar remains.
Pain is a teacher. We should not shy from it. We may break bones and bear scars but we learn lessons.
My boy broke his arms on the monkey bars. He cried. It hurt.
But he healed and I helped him back up on the monkey bars this weekend. He wasn’t scared. And he got across. We need to foster in them a sense of never surrender, never say die, and that no matter how beaten down and broken we might feel, it ain’t over until WE say it’s over.
And we NEVER say it’s over.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:35 pm to baseballmind1212
But you’ll hurt their feelings!!
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Racial makeup is: African American (59.3%), Hispanic (18.6%), White (14%). ... Compare Details The student/teacher ratio at Carson School is 8.2. 25 elementary schools in the Cincinnati Public Schools District have better student/teacher ratios.
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