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re: Salamoni-Terminated; Lake Suspended- New Videos Released-WBRZ
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:06 am to sparkinator
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:06 am to sparkinator
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What if I agree with the firing but don't think Sterling was murdered?
Yep I agree
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:06 am to Python
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AS ignored all previous commands, but you think he'll suddenly obey these? Not happening. He wasn't going down without a fight.
Sterling was a pussy and a coward. Like most thugs are, they carry around guns to act tough, etc etc.
2 guns being pointed at him from a safe distance, I bet Sterling would have complied on his own accord. And if he didn't, bling bang motherfricker would have been dead in a heartbeat.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
You just said earlier in this thread that Salamoni was a bigger piece of shite than Alton. If you don’t think he is a murderer, then how is he worst than a drug dealing, sex offender?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:10 am to Tino
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You just said earlier in this thread that Salamoni was a bigger piece of shite than Alton.
There's a really good chance if you want to judge by his actions.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:12 am to TheCaterpillar
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Now, the shooting is arguably justified because he resisted and had a gun, but it could also be argued he was scared he was about to be executed due to Salamoni’s behavior and words.
I can see that point, but at the same time, he didn't comply with Lake when he first arrived and nicely asked him if he could put his hands on the car, so he was non-cooperative from the start. Doesn't justify Salamoni's behavior, but still...
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
Bad words and being a hot head >>> sex crimes and drug dealing... gotcha
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:12 am to Tino
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Bad words and being a hot head >>> sex crimes and drug dealing... gotcha
Sure looked like he came in wanting to kill someone.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:14 am to dgnx6
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He going to get paid, I mean they settled for 6 figures for arresting protesters, this dude going to go ham with a decent lawyer.
The protesters barely made $1000 each. BS was legitimately fired. He will not get paid.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
If you agree with Salamoni being fired or think he murdered AS, then go through the scenario. At least google Shoot/Don’t Shoot and watch the videos. It may change some people’s mind on the situation, then again some people will never change their mind no matter what.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:17 am to Big EZ Tiger
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I can see that point, but at the same time, he didn't comply with Lake when he first arrived and nicely asked him if he could put his hands on the car, so he was non-cooperative from the start. Doesn't justify Salamoni's behavior, but still...
I don’t care if someone is being super nice to me at the same time if someone else is running at me with a gun pointed at my head threatening to execute me.
I think he should’ve complied and he would’ve lived. But Salamoni made this situation escalate without good reason, which likely resulted in the outcome.
Either bad training or just a guy that didn’t have the temperament to ever be a cop.
Fault lies with both men.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:17 am to Bojangles
I've been through the scenarios.
This wasn't one of those scenarios. The man was fired for violating protocol.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah, giving verbal commands numerous times to stop, telling Lake to taze him twice and then trying to tackle him to the ground to control him seems like he was a blood thirsty lunatic .
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:38 am to fallguy_1978
[quote]That's a bad area of town to /quote]
Not to A COP... It doesn't matter where you have to go into action... If the cop has to get amped just because of where a possible crime is commited then he is in the wrong profession............ Ill be honest here and say that while he was very aggressive, he was dealing with a very large man .... But IMO he went overboard with the words he used... AS did not deserve to die that night... but it was HIS call for kust not complying... There is not much more to say... EXCEPT that IF he would have complied we would not have had a shooting and brutal attack on 6 BR officers which left three dead at point blank range, but also one who will NEVER come close to being the same as he was again....
Not to A COP... It doesn't matter where you have to go into action... If the cop has to get amped just because of where a possible crime is commited then he is in the wrong profession............ Ill be honest here and say that while he was very aggressive, he was dealing with a very large man .... But IMO he went overboard with the words he used... AS did not deserve to die that night... but it was HIS call for kust not complying... There is not much more to say... EXCEPT that IF he would have complied we would not have had a shooting and brutal attack on 6 BR officers which left three dead at point blank range, but also one who will NEVER come close to being the same as he was again....
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:40 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:this is my position as well.
What if I agree with the firing but don't think Sterling was murdered?
can't we all agree that salamoni could have handled it MUCH better, but sterling is ultimately responsible for his own death?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:43 am to TheCaterpillar
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Either bad training or just a guy that didn’t have the temperament to ever be a cop.
Seems like the latter but I agree. That's not a guy you want in tense situations with a badge and a gun. A cop that's a hothead is a danger to all the citizens he protects and serves. I'm glad many here see that and can parse the bad decisions and actions from both Salamoni and Sterling that lead to a man dead.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I've been through the scenarios. This wasn't one of those scenarios. The man was fired for violating protocol.
He was fired because he motherfricked him and pointed the gun at his head and threatened to shoot him. The officers believed he had a gun and he physically resisted. I see no problem in what he did.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:49 am to Bojangles
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He was fired because he motherfricked him and pointed the gun at his head and threatened to shoot him
I don't think this is accurate
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:51 am to ThatMakesSense
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1 officer decides after the taser does nothing, the next best option is to tackle the suspect? That's just stupid.
No. At some point you have to act. The verbals and the less than lethal doesn’t work, the next step is hands on.
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Both officers are drawn on the suspect. Continue verbal commands fromna safe distance to deescalate the situation and subdue the suspect.
Right. Then he still doesn’t listen so we just point guns at him and wait him out.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:57 am to Bojangles
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He was fired because he motherfricked him and pointed the gun at his head and threatened to shoot him. The officers believed he had a gun and he physically resisted. I see no problem in what he did
Evidently the investigators did have a problem with it.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Evidently the investigators did have a problem with it.
Well no matter what is said here AS should have NOT flashed A gun at someone at 12:30 in the A.M... THAT is what has caused all of this........
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