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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:20 am to Cosmo
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:20 am to Cosmo
This is what I don't understand about this. Forget this being right vs left for a moment and let's just look at it from a common sense POV.
- There are a lot of dudes in this thread who are really excited about this. Seriously, why do you care that much? It really doesn't have much impact on you at all.
- This is gives the states the option to enforce it right? So if women who want to have an abortion lives in a state where its illegal all she has to do is go to a state where it is legal right? Not to mention, when have laws stopped people from doing something? Yeah, it becomes more of a risk, but the states that make abortion illegal will just result in some women getting it done illegally.
- And some of you are all about smaller government. Does that apply only when laws will impact you? If you are really being honest with yourself (I am asking this to the dudes) will this have any impact on your life?
Personally, if a women I don't know decides to have an abortion that has 0 impact on my life. Its the whole "if a tree falls in the woods and you didn't hear it...." scenario.
- How can you be so excited about this but be completely against making the legal age to by an AR15 21?
- Is your support of this strictly a political thing where you see it as a win for your side?
- Is it for religious reasons?
Why is it that important to you?
And yes I get it, I am dumb, I need to stop posting, I can't walk so there are jokes to be made to try to "insult" me... as if I give a frick. Can we skip all the predictable bullshite and someone just honestly answer this?
- There are a lot of dudes in this thread who are really excited about this. Seriously, why do you care that much? It really doesn't have much impact on you at all.
- This is gives the states the option to enforce it right? So if women who want to have an abortion lives in a state where its illegal all she has to do is go to a state where it is legal right? Not to mention, when have laws stopped people from doing something? Yeah, it becomes more of a risk, but the states that make abortion illegal will just result in some women getting it done illegally.
- And some of you are all about smaller government. Does that apply only when laws will impact you? If you are really being honest with yourself (I am asking this to the dudes) will this have any impact on your life?
Personally, if a women I don't know decides to have an abortion that has 0 impact on my life. Its the whole "if a tree falls in the woods and you didn't hear it...." scenario.
- How can you be so excited about this but be completely against making the legal age to by an AR15 21?
- Is your support of this strictly a political thing where you see it as a win for your side?
- Is it for religious reasons?
Why is it that important to you?
And yes I get it, I am dumb, I need to stop posting, I can't walk so there are jokes to be made to try to "insult" me... as if I give a frick. Can we skip all the predictable bullshite and someone just honestly answer this?
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
quote:
True. But the same can be said on the other side. Nobody on the Pearl clutching abortion is murder side really cares that much about the aborted baby of the welfare ghetto queen
Some of us just want decisions like this to be made at the level they should be. And like most things, it's not at the federal level.
California shouldn't drive decisions for people in Alabama, and Alabama shouldn't drive decisions for people in California.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:20 am to au4you
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frick the poor, uneducated women in states that do nothing to help them or change their circumstances.
So don’t get pregnant. People act like pregnancy is a virus you somehow catch.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:21 am to lsupride87
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The hairs on my neck don’t stand up when I hear of someone taking plan b or having an abortion at 17 weeks
You may need to look into what actually happens at 17 weeks. A fetus this size looks every bit like a "real" baby, and is about 6 inches long.
To kill this baby means crushing its little head before suctioning it out of its mother. In a later pregnancy, the abortionist cuts the baby up while in the mother, and then removes the body parts.
quote:
After 16 weeks, much of the procedure is performed using forceps to remove the fetus in pieces due to the fetus’ size. The doctor keeps track of all fetal body parts to ensure none are left inside.
It's a deranged and vile procedure.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:21 am to OweO
quote:
How can you be so excited about this but be completely against making the legal age to by an AR15 21?
Abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution at all, hence its not a constitutional right.
Gun ownership is
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:22 am to Centinel
quote:Oh I agree completely.
Some of us just want decisions like this to be made at the level they should be. And like most things, it's not at the federal level.
I’m just saying the loud people on both sides of the aisle that use the emotional side of the argument are both full of shite
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:22 am to Salmon
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And if you did, there are plenty of ways for you to help them.
But you likely don't.
So spare me.
Everything is a choice in America.
If you have ever traveled to another country and actually leave the resort you will realize this quickly.
My wife born and raised in Indonesia will tell you this as well.
If you are uneducated in America, it is more than likely by choice.
People need to stop with the narratives that what happens to a lot of people here isn't self-inflicted. If you want a better life in America, there are thousands of ways to achieve it and almost endless help to get there.
Killing your baby because you were not responsible should not be an excuse to keep you from achieving upward mobility in America.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:22 am to Cosmo
"Vote with your feet"
If the right to an abortion or an abortion ban is that important to you, then move to a state that supports your view. If, like most people, neither one is that important, stay where you are.
If the right to an abortion or an abortion ban is that important to you, then move to a state that supports your view. If, like most people, neither one is that important, stay where you are.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:22 am to Cosmo
Riots will be happening for sure.
Here for the melts.
Here for the melts.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:23 am to OweO
quote:
There are a lot of dudes in this thread who are really excited about this. Seriously, why do you care that much? It really doesn't have much impact on you at all.
Some people think killing innocent children is morally wrong.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:23 am to stout
I'm not emotional about it at all. I don't have any close female relatives of childbearing age. I'm just interested in the hypotheticals.
So was banning abortion, before today. From this point on, nothing is settled law. Thomas has even stated explicitly what other decisions he thinks should be revisited
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Unconstitutional
So was banning abortion, before today. From this point on, nothing is settled law. Thomas has even stated explicitly what other decisions he thinks should be revisited
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:23 am to OweO
OweO, there is so much wrong with your posts that I don’t even know where to begin.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:23 am to Harry Caray
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In the midst of inflation and recession what this country really needs is a huge influx of unwanted people.
That must be why our southern border is a wide open door
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:24 am to Cosmo
Liberals will continue to kill children. Liberal DA's have already said they will not prosecute doctors who perform them.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:24 am to Harry Caray
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Exactly this. In the midst of inflation and recession what this country really needs is a huge influx of unwanted people.
I’m so happy we now agree to build the wall 10ft higher and to completely overhaul and shut down the temp worker visa program.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:25 am to lsupride87
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But the same can be said on the other side. Nobody on the Pearl clutching abortion is murder side really cares that much about the aborted baby of the welfare ghetto queen
It's a morality debate. That's it.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:25 am to whatiknowsofar
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frick women's rights. One step closer to the fricking Saudis now.
You do realize this only makes this a state issue. One that you have MUCH more control over than some
Federal issue right?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:25 am to Jim Rockford
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So was banning abortion, before today.
It was shite legal reasoning, and needed to be struck down. Even Ginsburg believed that, despite being 100% for abortions.
If you want to make the right to an abortion an actual constitutional right, you codify it in the Constitution through the amendment process. Same if you want to make it constitutionally illegal.
This bypassing the amendment process through the courts bullshite needs to end. This is a step in the right direction.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:26 am to stout
quote:Sweet summer child. Your outlook on this country is staggering. The socio-economic approach of “aww shucks, pull yourself out of the gutter!” is so damn disingenuous. Public education is shite in AL. Healthcare is shite in AL. The economy is shite in AL. Social safety nets in AL are shite. But hey, middle class white guy can easily tell someone born in a broken, poverty riddled home that they should just try hard and everything will be fine.
Who is in this demo you speak of? Who in America is uneducated and it's not by choice? Who in America is blocked from at least getting an HS education?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:26 am to Salmon
Maybe I’m just calloused, but I think the average person doesn’t give that much of a shite about the morality of some random person having an abortion, or on the other side ths poor little woman being denied an abortion
The only thing that really matters is the constitution, and RvW was horeshit
The only thing that really matters is the constitution, and RvW was horeshit
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:27 am
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