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re: RIP Jimmy Carter

Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:54 pm to
A very good man does not weaken the country the way he did. A very good man bailed him and the country out.



This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16524 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:16 pm to
Jimmy costing me 10 hours of leave by giving us a free federal holiday when I already hit my must leave threshold.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2341 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:26 pm to
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Reagan gets credit for rebuilding the US military after Vietnam, but Carter started it and it was well underway by the time Reagan took office


He looked silly after the failure of Operation Eagle Claw. He had to do something.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:28 pm to
The stage was too big for him at the time, but seemed a lot more genuine than most politicians. He lived a very good life.
Posted by BabyTac
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 7:37 pm
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20537 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:14 pm to
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No he wasn’t. If anything he was a graceful loser and he was far from being petty. He was a great ambassador for the United States after his term and a true southern gentleman.

This is completely revisionist. He was incredibly bitter about losing to Reagan and he repeatedly and publicly undermined his successors. He also publicly supported totalitarian regimes against the interests of the United States. Carter never missed an opportunity to shite on the U.S. and in spite of his obviously failed presidency, continued to think that 'he knew better' than any of his successors. And it wasn't just that he said things publicly, he actively undermined US foreign policy by contacting foreign heads of state to argue against the publicly stated policy and interests of sitting administrations. He did this to such an extent that his behavior bordered on treason. He did this with Iraq in 1991 and he did it with North Korea during the Clinton administration.

Plenty of examples in this article.

Carter was a dangerously inept and vainglorious clown and the idea that he was this genteel southern statesman is bullshite.

Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31734 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:22 pm to
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This doesn't need to be said for fricks sake.

Before you try I'm not a Democrat.


He’s only known by the populace for one thing, being president and he was really really bad at it. It’s ok to give him his humanity while recognizing that he was horrible at the one thing he is known for.

Kanye: amazing rapper, composer, and producer. Also a psychopath.

Roman Polanski: amazing director. Also… a pedo.

Charles Lindy: amazing pilot and trailblazer… but a bit of a Nazi.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 8:23 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40875 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:59 pm to
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He also publicly supported totalitarian regimes against the interests of the United States.

Lol. Eisenhower replaced Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister with our puppet dictator, which is the direct cause of the Iranian hostage crisis 25 years later. Kennedy and Johnson then went to war in Vietnam on behalf of Ngo Dinh Diem's autocratic South Vietnamese regime. Then Nixon waged a secret war in Cambodia, which resulted in a coup and eventually the rise to power of the Khmer Rouge. After Carter, Reagan's administration befriended a guy in Iraq named Saddam and aided him in multiple invasions of Iran. Then Reagan's own Vice President went to war against our former ally not even a decade later. And most of us on here are old enough to remember disastrous foreign policy decisions made by Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Every American President in yours and my lifetime has done what you claim is limited to Carter.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Lol. Eisenhower replaced Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister with our puppet dictator, which is the direct cause of the Iranian hostage crisis 25 years later. Kennedy and Johnson then went to war in Vietnam on behalf of Ngo Dinh Diem's autocratic South Vietnamese regime. Then Nixon waged a secret war in Cambodia, which resulted in a coup and eventually the rise to power of the Khmer Rouge. After Carter, Reagan's administration befriended a guy in Iraq named Saddam and aided him in multiple invasions of Iran. Then Reagan's own Vice President went to war against our former ally not even a decade later. And most of us on here are old enough to remember disastrous foreign policy decisions made by Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Every American President in yours and my lifetime has done what you claim is limited to Carter.


Don’t forget Iran-Contra and our other adventures supporting totalitarianism in Latin America
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11454 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:16 pm to
Good guy, terrible president. But in comes Biden to save Carter from being the worse in modern history.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
6914 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:18 pm to
A pussy that shouldn’t have been President. Peanut farmer? Sure
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:20 pm to
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A pussy t


He was once part of a clean up crew that responded to a partial nuclear meltdown. He went into a radioactive area and only had 90 seconds to perform his task before being forced to be pulled out due to the extreme amount of radioactivity.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:20 pm to
He was a witness to how Christians should live their lives. No matter what you think/thought of his politics He walked it and talked it. He has received his heavenly reward and he's back with Rosalynn

My wife will always have the memory of going to his Sunday School class when she was in college at Georgia Southwestern.

Rest in Power Mr President.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:21 pm to
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UptownJoeBrown

GFY
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:22 pm to
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Lol. Eisenhower replaced Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister with our puppet dictator, which is the direct cause of the Iranian hostage crisis 25 years later. Kennedy and Johnson then went to war in Vietnam on behalf of Ngo Dinh Diem's autocratic South Vietnamese regime. Then Nixon waged a secret war in Cambodia, which resulted in a coup and eventually the rise to power of the Khmer Rouge. After Carter, Reagan's administration befriended a guy in Iraq named Saddam and aided him in multiple invasions of Iran. Then Reagan's own Vice President went to war against our former ally not even a decade later. And most of us on here are old enough to remember disastrous foreign policy decisions made by Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Every American President in yours and my lifetime has done what you claim is limited to Carter.

Good post.

Better don your flame suit.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Reagan gets credit for rebuilding the US military after Vietnam, but Carter started it


quote:

He wasn’t a good president but he put the Nation’s interests over his own and allowed Fed Chairman Paul Volker, (the true GOAT fed chairman), to let interest rates go wild etc to fix the economy even though it cost him the election and created something stagflation which we thought was impossible. Volker allegedly told Cater what he was going to do and it my cost him the election and Carter said do what is in the best interest of the Country.



These are two often overlooked facts

This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20537 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:37 pm to
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He was a witness to how Christians should live their lives
He supported gay marriage, abortion, and the trans movement.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148097 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:42 pm to
Dude was a pos like Paul Mccartney
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20537 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:48 pm to
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Better don your flame suit.

Naw, he's right about all that stuff. US foreign policy has been a disaster for the most part since the end of WWII. My issue with Carter is that he was one of the first presidents to break the tradition of not criticizing successors. Carter basically stepped out and took it upon himself to negotiate with foreign leaders independent of the current elected administration. His turn was over, it was time to let someone else frick everything up.

We have the issue with Iran today because of the US overthrowing Mossadegh in 1953 because of the British frickups with BP. Carter undermined the Shah and basically encouraged and supported Khomeni and the Islamic radicals that overthrew the Shah in '79. Iran has been a cascade of US foreign policy frickups for 75 years.
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
1273 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:42 pm to
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