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re: Report of Demon Possesion in Indiana
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:42 pm to OceanMan
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:42 pm to OceanMan
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You do see that it works both ways, right?
Not with this topic, though. We pretend there are only two sides...belief and non-belief and start to argue as such. then details begin to show and we have the various Christians break into pacts arguing their own special versions...pretending not to notice each other! haha I, and others, end up arguing with some who want to argue that Jonah REALLY was in a big fish, while others argue that the stories are just parables. What never seems to happen is that the more reasonable believers step in and say, "Wait...what did you just say about Noah's Ark?!? to their more, um...nuttier kin.
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I mean can we go back to our discussion earlier...what is the point of even arguing with someone like this?
I argue with them because I find them to be GENUINELY dangerous. when about 40% of the American public think The bible is the inerrant word of God, the problems that spin out of that are numerous and scary as all get out. My kind should NOT be the only kind standing up to those guys...
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:43 pm to BigEdLSU
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Nope. Because there is power in the name of Jesus. Not so much with your other listings
So...they're hallucinating? Lying?
When they make the same claims...what's their deal if you're correct and they are not?
What about their claim that they are correct, and you are either delusional or lying?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:44 pm to GeauxTigerTM
You'll bend knee one day. I hope it's by choice. Have a good night 
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:46 pm to BigEdLSU
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Ok bro. See your child on their deathbed. Hold a dying friend. You won't be so tough then.
It's not about being tough, asshat...it's about having come to this belief through thought. I'd no more call out to Jesus than I would to Thor...because I think both are make believe.
I'm 43 years old and have had TONS of shitty things happen in my life. I worked through them with the help of family and friends and at no point did it ever even occur to me to ask some deity for help. Again...why would I even think of such a thing if I don;t think they're real?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:46 pm to CajunZ81
Demon possession you say?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:47 pm to BigEdLSU
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I said unclean spirits
I just...um, I mean......
ok.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:48 pm to BigEdLSU
Like I said earlier, can you not realize that I view your faith exactly the same way that you view the faith of every other religion other than your own? If it is easy of you to disregard other religious faiths, how can you not understand there is the same lack of evidence for whatever faith you hold?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:49 pm to BigEdLSU
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You'll bend knee one day.
No, I won't.
And this'll get you worked up. Even if I KNEW God was real, there is NO WAY I'd WILLING follow him based on what I know about him from The Bible. Oh...I may acknowledge his existence, but I'd never willingly follow.
And if the best you can do is to threaten non-believers into submission, then...well, I guess I don't even need to go further.
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I hope it's by choice.
It won't be, sorry.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:49 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Hey man it's not my job to make you think what I think. It's my job to tell you what I've been through. You seem to mock things though so I'll stop wasting your time.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:53 pm to BigEdLSU
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Hey man it's not my job to make you think what I think.
It's not about making, it's about showing. You seem extremely interested in having people believe your claims, but unwilling to provide any evidence other than your own testimony.
That's a good job if you can get it, I guess...but it makes you no different than any other person who trots out an extraordinary claim with any extraordinary evidence. Your desire to think your case is special while theirs is not is just textbook special pleading.
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ou seem to mock things though so I'll stop wasting your time.
I mock unfounded claims and the suggestion that asking for evidence is ever a bad thing. I'm sorry your faith seems to teach you that asking for evidence is bad. Seems a solid way to have followers who will believe literally anything...
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
You're pretty good at making up words as if I said them.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:57 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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The fact that I have to keep an eye on our school system so that they don't sneak Intelligent Design into my sons' schools
So you don't trust your kids to be presented with all viewpoints and make the logical conclusions themselves? Seems like you do have a dog in the fight man. I don't mean that in a rude or challenging way, but if you have to "look out" for people teaching your kids viewpoints which oppose your own, it would stand to reason that you actively oppose it, rather than simply disagree. I mean, you do have the opportunity to teach your kids anything you want.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:58 pm to OceanMan
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Dude all I can tell you is that Christianity is not about traditions and rituals
Tell that to Catholicism. It's so steeped in tradition and rituals it may as well be choreographed.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:58 pm to BigEdLSU
He'll be just like all of the other atheist that beg like little bitches for Christ to "enter their heart" as they're laying on their deathbed.
I see it all the time. They talk down religion but as soon as they know they are about to die, they beg. This guy will be no different. He'll be scared shitless if he's in a situation where he knows death is near.
I see it all the time. They talk down religion but as soon as they know they are about to die, they beg. This guy will be no different. He'll be scared shitless if he's in a situation where he knows death is near.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:59 pm to RTOTA
All I'm saying is no matter whether you like it or not, he loves you. That's it. Y'all stay safe in this weather.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:00 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Even if I KNEW God was real, there is NO WAY I'd WILLING follow him based on what I know about him from The Bible.
So true
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:02 pm to BigEdLSU
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he loves you
He loves us enough to send people to be tortured in a lake of fire for all eternity just for not following his commands. Sounds like real loving guy
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
My last post on the subject...the evidence is all around you if you open your mind. There can be no other explanation. When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be true...said the ultimate man of reason. The universe, and the building blocks of life, did not magically appear. Therefor the universe must have been created by a higher being.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:11 pm to mattloc
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My last post on the subject...the evidence is all around you if you open your mind. There can be no other explanation. When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be true...said the ultimate man of reason. The universe, and the building blocks of life, did not magically appear. Therefor the universe must have been created by a higher being.
Possibly but aliens would be a more likely explanation than a Christian God.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:11 pm to Rebman601
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I see it all the time. They talk down religion but as soon as they know they are about to die, they beg. This guy will be no different. He'll be scared shitless if he's in a situation where he knows death is near
I seriously doubt you've seen this happen all the time. Probably not even once.
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