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Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted by smoke4life
Houston
Member since Feb 2006
686 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:41 pm
Are an ice maker and mini-fridge built into a bar automatically transferable in a home sale? Or do these needed to be included (or excluded) in the exclusions portion of the contract.

More info: bar in question with appliances is in a separate room outside of kitchen. Property is in State of Texas.

TIA
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:42 pm to
It's an appliance which is generally removable.
Though some states consider Dishwashers, Ovens and the like part of the house since they are "installed"

Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48320 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:42 pm to
I would include or exclude as needed in paperwork so no one assumes.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4231 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:44 pm to
Is this like the thread last week with the photos of the realtors that some never could find?
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:51 pm to
built in means they are considered a fixture.
Posted by smoke4life
Houston
Member since Feb 2006
686 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Though some states consider Dishwashers, Ovens and the like part of the house since they are "installed"


The mini-bar and ice maker are not connected to the house by any fixtures/screws/etc except the power cord (they slide out easily). However, they were purchased prior to the bar being constructed, so the bar was built made to fit them.

They were not excluded in the contract, and after inspections, there appears to be an issue with the performance of the ice-maker. The buyer wants it repaired or replaced. The seller does not want to fix or replace.
Posted by smoke4life
Houston
Member since Feb 2006
686 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

built in means they are considered a fixture.


This is what I understand. There seems to be gray area though depending on who you ask.

Thanks for the answers.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15081 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

ice maker are not connected to the house by any fixtures/screws/etc except the power cord (they slide out easily).


An ice maker is useless without some plumbing connected.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:04 pm to
What about a BBQ pit that is concreted in. It is concreted, but can easily be removed.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

What about a BBQ pit that is concreted in

fixture
Posted by smoke4life
Houston
Member since Feb 2006
686 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

An ice maker is useless without some plumbing connected.


Ha good point. I would say that re-enforces it as a fixture.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:10 pm to
Guess I'll have to put it on the exclusions list....or dig it up before someone comes to look at it.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15081 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:12 pm to
I would think a bar ice maker would be a fixture since it is attached to a water supply line and also a drain line. They do not maintain temperature and are cooled by the ice that is constantly melting.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4231 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:24 pm to
What about the ice maker scoop? It's not attached to anything.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14564 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:41 pm to
realtors are useless
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

realtors are useless


I'll just say extremely overpaid.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9920 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:03 pm to
When in doubt - write it out. Request in writing in the Purchase Agreement for it to remain at no value.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9920 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:10 pm to
Am I the only Realtor in the thread???
Posted by rmcelh1
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2008
103 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:01 pm to
Avoid confusion and potential future issues, put it in writing. Another common problem is when bathroom mirrors are hung instead of being permanently attached. Clients are pissed when the mirrors aren't there at closing. Never assume. Ask or have your realtor ask, and write it down. An experienced realtor should do this automatically.

8 years experience in Louisiana, I'm not completely familiar with the Texas contract.
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