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re: Real bad condo collapse in Surfside, FL
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:54 pm to rt3
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:54 pm to rt3
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obviously referring to the people from up north who come down south for better weather
but I would think they would find another way to describe them instead of using a term that some may consider almost derogatory
My dad is one, as are a number of family members and family friends. They don't find it derogatory. Also, all or most of them are back up north for the summer.
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:54 pm to baobabtiger
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Those beach front condos are designed to be able to withstand total substrate washout and still stand.
Agreed, although this building obviously didn't perform as designed. Those buildings are likely supported by piles installed very deep into the ground. It would require one incredible sinkhole to undermine them.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:56 pm to back9Tiger
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Were they structural renovations or just architectural... big difference.
Not necessarily. Dumbass contractors could have screwed up something as basic as roof work by damaging something with equipment or overloading something. Wasn't that bridge that collapsed due to all the construction equipment on the bridge overloading it?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:58 pm to GCTiger11
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:00 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I've never met a snowbird who found the term derogatory. Hell, most of them refer to themselves as snowbirds.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:00 pm to udtiger
NBC 6 reporter is losing her composure on air... starting to openly cry
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:03 pm to Hobie101
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Those buildings are likely supported by piles installed very deep into the ground
Probably friction piles, if there was a dewatering contractor next door pulling water thru the subgrade, then the sand become fluid and loses its friction.
Not a P.E., just a theory.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:04 pm to rt3
now firefighters working to put out a fire at the site
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:05 pm to rt3
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eah... of the wild speculative theories... those that seem the most plausible at this moment are...
A) sinkhole
B) frick-up related to ongoing building maintenance/certification
ETA: and not necessarily in that order
Said roofing work was ongoing.... maybe the roofer set all his material in one area and overloaded the section starting a chain reaction after the initial failure
maybe a broken water main under the structure washed out the support in one area
corrosion of structural member
we can speculate all day....
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:06 pm to rt3
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:08 pm to rt3
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hearing news people use the term "snowbirds" openly seems odd to me
obviously referring to the people from up north who come down south for better weather
but I would think they would find another way to describe them instead of using a term that some may consider almost derogatory
Not to be confused with Snow Bunnys....Completely different video content...Or so I'm told....
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:12 pm to GCTiger11
Hoping most were back "home" for the summer.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:13 pm to SippyCup
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I've never met a snowbird who found the term derogatory. Hell, most of them refer to themselves as snowbirds.
this, and I lived in south FL for years
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:14 pm to 777Tiger
They’re allowed to call themselves that.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:17 pm to SippyCup
Now the part of the building still standing is on fire.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:22 pm to rt3
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those that seem the most plausible at this moment are...
A) sinkhole
Not many sinkholes around Miami:
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:22 pm to tigeraddict
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Said roofing work was ongoing.... maybe the roofer set all his material in one area and overloaded the section
This happens all the time. However, in every case that I'm aware of, the result is roof collapse. It would be very unlikely that the contractor could add enough load to the roof such that the structure would fail before the roof supports gave way.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:24 pm to CarRamrod
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you think FIGG is an all woman firm? You are an idiot. FIGG was a well known firm with a lot of exotic bridge designs.
You sure are pissy. Calm down, Karen.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:31 pm to brett408
NBC 6 reporter: "architect I talked to says watching the video of the collapse tells him it's some kind of human error"
Posted on 6/24/21 at 1:33 pm to jrodLSUke
It's also a flat roof loaded with HVAC equipment, so it's not like they're stacking 100k lbs of roof tile on it. Any roofing work would probably indicate sealing penetrations and/or new membrane.
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