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Question regarding racial superiority in human history
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:36 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:36 am
Why is it that the Nazis are so consistently vilified, even to this day, over their views on their own racial superiority, yet the Japanese had the very same views on their own racial superiority, and it’s almost as if that’s swept under the rug and attributed to just a part of their culture or whatever? And while we’re at it, why is it that the Holocaust is so abhorrent, yet the Nanking Massacre, and the treatment of people under their rule over them during the war was nothing short of horrific, but it’s almost as if you have to really look for it, because it’s certainly not taught in schools, and almost no punishment was sought for their war crimes after the war in comparison to the Nazis.
Sure seems like an obvious double standard.
Sure seems like an obvious double standard.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:37 am to Mike da Tigah
Because when white people do something bad, it’s immediately worse
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:38 am to Mike da Tigah
White liberals have been a detriment to every race there is and it gets swept under the rug
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:39 am to Mike da Tigah
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Japanese had the very same views on their own racial superiority, and it’s almost as if that’s swept under the rug and attributed to just a part of their culture or whatever?
They ate two care packages of nuclear fire and brimstone for it. They got what was coming to them. We punished their culture, their innocents and their children.
Germany has never paid any real price for the Holocaust IMO, culturally. Economically sure.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:40 am to Mike da Tigah
Didn't we already have this thread? We did.
LINK
I think the thread answers the question pretty well as well.
The Japanese atrocities were to the Chinese. The Nazi atrocities were to the Jews.
Jews are more relatable to Americans than the Chinese.
Its human nature to care more about people that are more similar to yourself.
LINK
I think the thread answers the question pretty well as well.
The Japanese atrocities were to the Chinese. The Nazi atrocities were to the Jews.
Jews are more relatable to Americans than the Chinese.
Its human nature to care more about people that are more similar to yourself.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:40 am to Mike da Tigah
I think it has to do with cultural spheres. Most of the posters on this site live in a Western/European cultural sphere so the Holocaust is much more visible. Also, most Europeans/Americans are more aware of the cultural differences in Europe as opposed to Eastern/southeastern Asia.
Obviously imperial Japan should be vilified as well. Authoritarianism/ ethnic genocide is universally bad.
ETA: Salmon hit it on the head.
Obviously imperial Japan should be vilified as well. Authoritarianism/ ethnic genocide is universally bad.
ETA: Salmon hit it on the head.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:40 am to Mike da Tigah
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almost no punishment was sought for their war crimes after the war in comparison to the Nazis.
We kinda gave them the ol' 1-2 punch that adjusted their thinking real quick, if you catch my drift.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:40 am to Travis Scott
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Because when white people do something bad, it’s immediately worse
When white people do something to a group to try to prevent that group from doing something they already did ten times worse in Russia to the white people.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:41 am to Mike da Tigah
Hitler made for a better story
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:45 am to Mike da Tigah
Don't forget the Russians and the Chinese and the tens of millions of their own people they murdered and starved. For whatever reason, it's ok to commit genocide against your own people. (China is doing it now).
But you're vilified for doing it against another group. When, in theory, it could be somewhat argued the opposite.
But you're vilified for doing it against another group. When, in theory, it could be somewhat argued the opposite.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:45 am to windshieldman
Anywhere from 3-14 Million civilian deaths are said to be at the hands of the Empire of Japan through massacres, forced starvation, live experimentation, and the like, which seems like a very wide ranging number, and one that obviously has not received nearly as much attention in order to bring the number to a closer approximation over the years.
It’s still a hell of a lot of civilian lives lost under that regime, yet it’s almost as if it never happened given the extreme lack of attention it receives.
I could probably make a similar argument for lives lost under Marxism in the Soviet Union post WWII as well, yet barely a peep... It’s almost as if we’ve hung everyone’s sins upon the necks of the Nazis, and made them carry the entire burden.
It’s still a hell of a lot of civilian lives lost under that regime, yet it’s almost as if it never happened given the extreme lack of attention it receives.
I could probably make a similar argument for lives lost under Marxism in the Soviet Union post WWII as well, yet barely a peep... It’s almost as if we’ve hung everyone’s sins upon the necks of the Nazis, and made them carry the entire burden.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:47 am to Mike da Tigah
Unit 731 wasn’t no joke.
Some sick mother frickers who got away with some straight up draconian shite.
Some sick mother frickers who got away with some straight up draconian shite.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:48 am to Mike da Tigah
The Jews had Simon Wiesenthal to keep the Holocaust in the public eye. The Chinese, soon after the war went Communist and became the enemy of the US, therefore there was no one to keep the war crimes of the Japanese in the public eye.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:50 am to Mike da Tigah
Ask the Chinese, Koreans, Malaysians, Indonesians, Filipinos and Indochinese what they think of Japan.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:51 am to cajunandy
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The Jews had Simon Wiesenthal to keep the Holocaust in the public eye. The Chinese, soon after the war went Communist and became the enemy of the US, therefore there was no one to keep the war crimes of the Japanese in the public eye.
Understood, but wouldn’t a people who purpose to be so outraged over war crimes and the slaughtering of innocent civilians eventually bring this to public consciousness?
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:57 am to Mike da Tigah
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Understood, but wouldn’t a people who purpose to be so outraged over war crimes and the slaughtering of innocent civilians eventually bring this to public consciousness?
Easier to be outraged when you can pronounce the names and places of victims. It’s a lot easier for americans to be sympathetic to a white guy named Jacob from say Bordeaux than a Chinese guy named zingshi ming Tao from Guanzhuang shangdong china.
Basic human nature, that be.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 8:57 am
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:57 am to Mike da Tigah
I learned about the Rape of Nanking in HS and I didn't go to a particularly good school either, so
I'm not arguing that its covered remotely as much as the Nazis, but the Japanese atrocities are taught
the last Hardcore History podcast was about all of this
I'm not arguing that its covered remotely as much as the Nazis, but the Japanese atrocities are taught
the last Hardcore History podcast was about all of this
Posted on 2/4/21 at 8:58 am to ShoeBang
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They ate two care packages of nuclear fire and brimstone for it. They got what was coming to them. We punished their culture, their innocents and their children.
Germany has never paid any real price for the Holocaust IMO, culturally. Economically sure.
Meh, the 2 atomic bombs were more show than substance. Both Germany and Japan received much much worse through fire bombs and night time raids carpet bombing targets sandwiched in between civilian centers.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:01 am to Riggle
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I think it has to do with cultural spheres. Most of the posters on this site live in a Western/European cultural sphere so the Holocaust is much more visible. Also, most Europeans/Americans are more aware of the cultural differences in Europe as opposed to Eastern/southeastern Asia.
This. Some guy on a message board in Asia is asking why the Japanese get vilified so much more than the Nazis
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