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Question for OT Lawyers: company wide vaccine mandate and waiver to sign
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:00 pm
Company is forcing our hand at getting the vaccine. Says we have to have it or termination. The only “work around” is religious exemption.
Upon showing our proof of being completely vaccinated we also have to sign a waiver releasing the company of all responsibility in the event the vaccine causes us harm/death.
If I refuse to sign and get terminated, do I have any ability to sue?
Upon showing our proof of being completely vaccinated we also have to sign a waiver releasing the company of all responsibility in the event the vaccine causes us harm/death.
If I refuse to sign and get terminated, do I have any ability to sue?
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:01 pm to 0x15E
Unlikely. Assuming you work for a private company.
Edit based on the post below me: yes, you have the ability to sue. But you don’t likely have the ability to win.
Serious question: what would you think you could sue your employer for?
Edit based on the post below me: yes, you have the ability to sue. But you don’t likely have the ability to win.
Serious question: what would you think you could sue your employer for?
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:01 pm to 0x15E
quote:Yes, you have the ability to sue.
If I refuse to sign and get terminated, do I have any ability to sue?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:02 pm to 0x15E
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:05 pm to SuperSaint
100% sure you can sue.
100% sure you will lose.
100% sure you will lose.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:09 pm to 0x15E
Why would you need to sign a waiver for something that Brandon says is completely safe?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:10 pm to ducktale
My company didn't mandate that we get vaccinated, they did, however, give us $500 for showing proof that we did. 
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:11 pm to 0x15E
If you’re in LA, you can wipe your arse with a document that tries to waive tort immunity.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:12 pm to 0x15E
Are you asking if you can go to jail for forcing others to get the virus because you’re too selfish to do your part and get vaccinated?
The answer is no, for now
The answer is no, for now
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:13 pm to 0x15E
So they are backing you into a corner, essentially forcing you, to do something you don’t want to do. Then if something bad happens you can’t hold them accountable for forcing you to do it.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:14 pm to Ajo Devil
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My company didn't mandate that we get vaccinated, they did, however, give us $500 for showing proof that we did
You shouldn’t need to get money for being a decent human being. Give that 500 to people of color yaherme
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:15 pm to el Gaucho
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Give that 500 to people of color yaherme
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:15 pm to el Gaucho
You’ve gotten too obvious in your trolling. Or maybe you’ve just been in the game too long. I don’t know. Either way, might be time to hang it up.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:30 pm to 0x15E
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we also have to sign a waiver releasing the company of all responsibility in the event the vaccine causes us harm/death.
Any clause is null that, in advance, excludes or limits the liability of one party for causing physical injury to the other party.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:40 pm to chilge2
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Any clause is null that, in advance, excludes or limits the liability of one party for causing physical injury to the other party.
I'd also assume an injured party could argue duress, which makes it not a valid contract.
Waivers are supposed to be for doing something the other party told you NOT to do. Like leaving a hospital against medical advice. In those cases it's so they can prove they warned you and you didn't listen.
In this case they're holding his livelihood over his head.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:40 pm to Ajo Devil
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they did, however, give us $500 for showing proof that we did
its amazing how cheap people are.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:46 pm to DaBike
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So they are backing you into a corner, essentially forcing you, to do something you don’t want to do. Then if something bad happens you can’t hold them accountable for forcing you to do it.
Except they're not forcing anyone to do anything. To use your analogy, the corner has a door and the OP is free to walk out of it at any time.
The waiver is stupid though. The employer has no tort liability for any harm suffered as a result of taking the vaccine.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:47 pm to 0x15E
OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022.
Meaning, no waiver is required.
Meaning, no waiver is required.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 5:11 pm to Dixie Normus
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If you’re in LA, you can wipe your arse with a document that tries to waive tort immunity.
This. Waivers of tort liability don't mean anything in Louisiana.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 5:23 pm to Dixie Normus
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If you’re in LA, you can wipe your arse with a document that tries to waive tort immunity.
The more important question is does the company have any tort liability to waive.
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