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re: Psychology Today==> Women cheat for their spouse's benefit
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:54 am to Roaad
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:54 am to Roaad
Where did I say our actions aren’t our fault? I’m pointing out that trying to figure out why someone does something stupid and not taking into account our place in the kingdom is missing context.
Making my point for me
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We share a 98% of our DNA with pigs
Making my point for me
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:56 am to Roaad
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But let’s talk about another practical move these women made: not putting all their eggs in one basket. Many women maintained multiple affair partners at once. Not because they were greedy, but because they’d already learned from marriage that relying on just one man for everything was a risky bet. So, they kept a “roster” or “herd” of partners to ensure they always had options.
One woman put it best: "Why would I expect one affair partner to meet all my needs when my husband couldn’t?"
Jesus Christ
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:56 am to Roaad
This story feels like something SFP would write.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:58 am to Sofaking2
You guys are way too hard on SFP. Most of what he posts is intellectual exercise.
He takes unpopular opinions to see if he can defend them. Lawyers love doing that shite. . .hell they are taught to do it in law school
He takes unpopular opinions to see if he can defend them. Lawyers love doing that shite. . .hell they are taught to do it in law school
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:04 pm to Roaad
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i can think of three posts in this thread off the dome. Will link them when I get in front of my PC
Please do, because I genuinely don't see what you're saying in this thread.
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again, same as above. . .plus the author.
He isn't meeting her needs, so she is justified in shattering the marriage
I didn't ask about the author. I've read some of the author's work. While I don't disagree with her that women do often seek attention outside of their marriages for various reasons and sexual dissatisfaction can be one of them, I do think when they're not satisfied they have to put on their big girl panties and leave/divorce before cheating. And before that making more attempts than "oh I tried to talk to him about it" to "fix" things (as long as we're not talking a DV situation here obviously).
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:08 pm to cbree88
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Your post is further proof that some males are part of the problem when it comes to society not holding women accountable for their actions
Where is this world where women ain't held accountable for their actions? In the vast majority of divorces and children being born into single parent homes the mother is the only parent held to any kind of accountability.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:10 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:lol wut
In the vast majority of divorces and children being born into single parent homes the mother is the only parent held to any kind of accountability.
Wait, are you being sarcastic?
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:13 pm to VolSquatch
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Its almost like we are some kind of animal that is subconsciously either always trying to either get pregnant or get someone else pregnant.
It is a biological imperative and the only reason any organism exists, to procreate. Society is the problem, not human nature. Monogamy was fine when folks died when they were in their 30s and 40s and a 60 year old was a village elder. It did not exist for the vast majority of human existence as even a hinted at expectation because it is a fricking silly notion and it is pretty regressive biologically. Animals frick and folks is animals...its what we do.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:20 pm to AwgustaDawg
Animals murder and steal.
Empty the jails!!!
Biological determinism is so laughable
Also, monogamy was created so men can be sure of paternity.
Empty the jails!!!
Biological determinism is so laughable
Also, monogamy was created so men can be sure of paternity.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:26 pm to Roaad
Do you think pointing out that we are primates in the animal kingdom excuses certain behaviors? We’re biologically wired to kill to endure. Only in the last blip of time of humans on this planet have we stopped doing it so callously. 10k years ago you’d have stolen your neighbors food to survive.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:42 pm to olddawg26
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We’re biologically wired to kill to endure. Only in the last blip of time of humans on this planet have we stopped doing it so callously. 10k years ago you’d have stolen your neighbors food to survive.
You are making my point. Self-awareness and higher level reasoning have allowed us to create a better way, which includes necessarily suppressing baser instincts that are detrimental to society proper.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:43 pm to bird35
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Both sexes need to consider “Is it worth it?” Is a few weeks or months of fun worth breaking up a family for?? I say No. While the short term will be a good time the long term consequences will be a lifetime of regret.
The wrong thing is always fun for a season.
While I agree with your premise it begs the question why would sexual infidelity break up a family? I know it will and would in my own marriage BUT that is not the same thing as why. The fact that this is considered pretty much universal is the problem, not infidelity. It breaks up families because of egos and self-absorbed emotions on the part of the cheater and the cheated on. Again, that is the current societal norm but it is not normal in the history of man. As a mere expectation it accounts for about 3.33% of the time we have existed as a species - the other 96.67% of the time we were polygamous and for good reason...it was and is biologically necessary. Only about 3-5% of mammals on the planet practice any form of monogamy and in most of those instances it lasts for one breeding cycle. Some human societies expect an adult human being to remain chaste the rest of their lives no matter how young they are when their mate dies. That is unheard of outside of humans.
There are a couple of factors working against human monogamy. The first is obvious...fricking is fun. The second is almost unique to humans and has only recently been though to be present in other mammals and that is the emotional aspect of sex...its comforting, a sign of affection, all manner of emotion tied in the most basic act we as animals perform. This is where the idea of monogamy comes from...emotion. Not a bad thing since there is nothing we choose or can do about it. When that emotional bond is severed or not present it is a strong inducement to seek it elsewhere. Monogamy and the societal restrictions and punishments we dole out is not conducive to that and is bought at the expense of human nature. It ain't natural to be monogamous....almost no other species does it and the few that do usually do it for one breeding cycle and one only. It is a societal construct that has not existed for the vast majority of human existence.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:45 pm to AwgustaDawg
You are either a kid, or you just aren't a serious person
Are you doing a bit?
quote:violation of a social contract between 2 people
why would sexual infidelity break up a family?
Are you doing a bit?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:51 pm to AwgustaDawg
Also
LINK
LINK
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It is entirely possible that our most distant ancestors were monogamous. Fossil evidence, says anthropologist C. Owen Lovejoy of Kent State University, suggests that monogamy predates even Ardipithecus ramidus, the species best known from a 4.4-million-year-old partial female skeleton, nicknamed “Ardi,” discovered in the Middle Awash region of Ethiopia.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:51 pm to Roaad
quote:He is one the new wave individuals who seems to believe that polygamy and lack of commitment to anyone but yourself is better for humanity.
Are you doing a bit?
It is the modern selfishness that permeates the younger generations, but it started with the hippies.
His position would potentially have a modicum of merit if we still lived in villages of 100 people, largely family, and raising children “took a village”.
His mindset fails at every level in the modern world.
All studies show that a nuclear monogamous family is the most superior method for children.
Only those of selfish natures reject that.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:56 pm to Scruffy
Even in countries where polygamy is legal, very few participate. . .a tiny minority. I mean. . .nuff said
Also, let me add that 100% of the time I have heard married men argue against monagamy, they were being unfaithful. It is like all this is a rationalization to themselves that they are still a good person. . .society just doesn't understand (coincidentally the same rationalization pedos use).
Also, let me add that 100% of the time I have heard married men argue against monagamy, they were being unfaithful. It is like all this is a rationalization to themselves that they are still a good person. . .society just doesn't understand (coincidentally the same rationalization pedos use).
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:06 pm to Roaad
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why would sexual infidelity break up a family?
violation of a social contract between 2 people
Absolutely...but that contract is about 3% of the age of homo sapiens on the planet.....so it has not been around enough to be steeped in our psyche...
Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:11 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:i just linked a Scientific American article arguing monagamy predates Homo Sapiens.
Absolutely...but that contract is about 3% of the age of homo sapiens on the plane
Also, in countries where polygamy is legal, hardly anyone participates. Almost like we are hard-wired for monogamy.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:13 pm to Roaad
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In the vast majority of divorces and children being born into single parent homes the mother is the only parent held to any kind of accountability.
lol wut
Wait, are you being sarcastic?
In divorce men get off almost free....a penance of financial support compared to what it costs to raise a child you live with AND no requirement whatsoever to provide any emotional support to the child while the mother is almost universally saddled with the financial and emotional needs of the child while the father is free to get on with his life. I know y'all like to pretend paying child support is a horrible imposition BUT its cheaper than living with a child financially and it has no emotional support requirement whatsoever. I have heard it from divorced men all my life...."whine whine snivel snivel that bitch is making me pay child support whine whine bitch bitch". Actually I have never heard a MAN say anything of the sort because a man would not say such a thing, only a spoiled immature male person would.
In cases of unplanned pregnancy its almost ALWAYS the woman who bares ALL of the responsibility. In these cases men usually aren't even expected to contribute to the financial needs of the child...they almost certainly never contribute emotionally to the child. Y'all can't have it both ways, you can't claim women have no accountability and that single mothers are to blame for the demise of society because a single mother means and absent father and the accountability is the idea that the single mother is the demise of society.
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