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re: Pre-Dawn Raid Results in Mobile Police Shooting Armed 16 year old

Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:17 am to
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3890 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:17 am to
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whether they actually announced. I ha


9 people probably yelled police as the hammer hit the door knob. Just my guess.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:18 am to
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The only thing keeping them from being labled murderers is the fact that they were cops in the process of doing their duty

This line is very important. Re-read and comprehend it.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106102 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:18 am to
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Can we also agree that there was no need for that raid in the first place? That early morning raids are extremely dangerous. That many times(including this one) they don’t even end up wit who or what they were after?


They'll say they're against these raids but when anyone makes any reasonable suggestion to fixing the issue, it gets labeled as defunding the police.

The FOP and those who blindly support the police will fight tooth and nail to avoid any kind of real culpability for poor policing and poor policy.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:20 am to
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This thread is full of blacks, social justice warriors, the white guilt crowd, cop haters, and potheads. What did you expect?


I at least appreciate how you're openly racist.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:20 am to
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They'll say they're against these raids but when anyone makes any reasonable suggestion to fixing the issue, it gets labeled as defunding the police.


Youre literally making stuff up and pretending its reality.

Can you read? go back through the past few pages and try again.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12450 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:20 am to
To argue the point that the raid should have never occurred in the first place, and that the same items that were found in this persons home would be found in 10s of thousands of homes across the country, and were most likely in your own home when you were raided

You also called your own raid unjustified, which is what I have been calling this raid.

My entire argument has been the kid died unnecessary because the cops should have never conducted the raid in the first place.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:24 am to
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racist.

You sure do like to throw that word around. It won't help with me. I don't suffer any guilt. Sorry.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135825 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:24 am to
It's all he has to counter with. Like most racists.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:24 am to
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I at least appreciate how you're openly racist.


How so?

Is he wrong?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:24 am to
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To argue the point that the raid should have never occurred in the first place, and that the same items that were found in this persons home would be found in 10s of thousands of homes across the country, and were most likely in your own home when you were raided


This
Had
Nothing
To
Do
With
The
Kid
Pointing
A
Gun
At
Cops.



Regardless of what was in the house, he died because he pointed a gun at the cops.

I agree with you that night time raids for drugs shouldnt happen. But they do, and most of the time no one dies.

Youre conflating issues.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:25 am to
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You sure do like to throw that word around. It won't help with me. I don't suffer any guilt. Sorry.


No doubt. You're not intelligent enough.

Still, it helps point out the lowest denominator.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:26 am to
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Still, it helps point out the lowest denominator.


We all are aware of your presence.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:26 am to
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RogerTheShrubber


Someone feels neglected.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:30 am to
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No doubt. You're not intelligent enough.

White guilt is an indicator of intelligence? Please explain this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:31 am to
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No doubt. You're not intelligent enough.

White guilt is an indicator of intelligence?


Wait, he said that?

Holy shite..
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13772 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:31 am to
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They were agents or representatives of the State doing the state's business on behalf of the state


Correct me if I’m wrong, but they were actually there at the behest of neighbors tired of drugs being sold in their neighborhood. The neighbors that showed them video evidence of drug activity.

Funny because you hear it all the time, how neighborhoods go down fast, because the police don’t want to do anything about the crime, so people just move out or move away. And then more bad people move in.

This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 11:41 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:32 am to
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White guilt is an indicator of intelligence? Please explain this.


Only one mentioning white guilt is you. Deflection.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12450 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:32 am to
The issues are mixed.

Kid died because he pointed a gun at the cops

But the only reason kid pointed a gun at the cops was because the cops entered kids home, looking for individual who wasn’t there, to arrest said individual for a drug selling operation that by all info thus far was not occurring.

So what is the end result? A dead kid and a bunch of cops who came back with nothing they went there for.

ETA: if this didn’t happen often, there would be less of a discussion. However we hear about botched nighttime raids far to often
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:36 am to
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The issues are mixed.


No they arent. Only to people trying to muddy the waters.

You dont have to agree with common police practices to understand that pointing a gun at cops will lead to bad thing. People are choosing a very poor case to make a stand upon.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13772 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:37 am to
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To argue the point that the raid should have never occurred in the first place, and that the same items that were found in this persons home would be found in 10s of thousands of homes across the country, and were most likely in your own home when you were raided


Those items maybe in thousands of peoples houses. Is there video of you dealing drugs out of your house or driveway that woukd warrant police involvement?

I can answer that question decisively about myself.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 11:39 am
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