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re: Police released video of the fatal shooting of unarmed black man in Oklahoma

Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21689 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:56 pm to
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enter his vehicle after being told to stand down then the officers actions were justified.


Eh, I don't know a jury might disagree he was an imminent danger to others, especially after running away from his dangerous car.

That assumes of course the DA will prosecute one of his own, and that he presents everything to a grand jury.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
157 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:49 pm to
Killing unarmed citizens, cops today have turned into such pussy's, pathetic.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17049 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:50 pm to
I havent been paying allt of attention to this case. But what is the word? I watched the video, it looks like he was complying with his hands up, and walking toward his car for some reason, and then he was shot.

What is the cops reason for the use of deadly force and is it reasonable?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:35 am to
I saw someone on my FB feed(a former coworker) post a link to the Tulsa shooting with the line we hear all the time, something along the lines of, "And people wonder why some cops are being targeted"

The amazing part of that is that she was actually involved in a shooting incident where a dude came in and shot up a salon, and her mother was there as well and was shot and killed.

Posted by Azranod
The Land of crooked letters and I's
Member since Oct 2013
1197 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:44 am to
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do you really think it is worth the risk, getting shot dead, to challenge the cops on the street when you feel your rights are being violated?


quote:

RogerTheShrubber That's a sad statement within itself.



Try this then: do you really think it is worth the risk, getting shot dead, to challenge a person looking to rob you on the street when you feel your rights are being violated?

do you really think it is worth the risk(getting shot dead) to walk on certain streets, when you feel your rights will be violated if you walk on those streets?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:59 am to
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Try this then: do you really think it is worth the risk, getting shot dead, to challenge a person looking to rob you on the street when you feel your rights are being violated? do you really think it is worth the risk(getting shot dead) to walk on certain streets, when you feel your rights will be violated if you walk on those streets?
I went a bit more heavy handed, but that's the exact scenario I asked about as well.

Posted by PropofolPapi
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
1467 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:57 am to
Any news on Shelby's fate?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:03 am to
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Any news on Shelby's fate?
That's probably going to take a couple of months or so, I'd guess.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:05 am to

Anyone just see the live presser of Trump at the black church in Cleveland?


An amazing SJW and BLM performance.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:05 am to
PCP found in the car not known if he was on it or not.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:52 pm to
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We are second class citizens

and

We become part of the criminal system at a higher rate than other races dude to profiling and unlawful police practices.

Now that you got the picture go frick yourself tom.


Hmmmmmm....so it's a statistical fact that blacks are twice as likely to die from firearms than whites....

Black Americans are more than twice as likely to die from gun violence than whites, according to a new study that surveyed more than a decades' worth of data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Between 2000 and 2010, the death rate due to firearm-related injuries was more than 18.5 per 100,000 among blacks, but only nine per 100,000 among whites. For Hispanics, it was just over seven per 100,000, and for all other races it was just below 3.5 per 100,000.


More food for thought:

– FACT: From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.
– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.


So if african americans commit more crimes (remind you it's a fact) wouldn't it make sense that the percentage of their arrests parallel this?

African Americans control their own destiny...it's not being defined by white people or police.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:42 am to














Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:44 am to
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PCP found in the car not known if he was on it or no


So the cops planted this in the car? No one in America had seen PCP since the 1970s.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69363 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:46 am to
I can't believe she was forcing him to walk to his vehicle like that


ETA: has it been determined if there was anything wrong with his vehicle? or was he just high as frick?

The media and BLM supporters sure do love reporting how he broke down...be funny if the vehicle was working just fine
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 9:49 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:48 am to
now lest see who comes back and eats crow...

he's clearly reaching into the car.

Shooting is justified.

Case closed
Posted by Steve Lurkel
Member since Feb 2015
174 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:48 am to
Looks to me like a non compliant possibly high gentlemen reaching into in vehicle.

Is the cop just supposed to wait until he gets what he's reaching for?

Why is there outrage over this again?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69363 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:51 am to
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Why is there outrage over this again?


black guy with a record got shot not complying duh
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:54 am to
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a jury might disagree


Reason I would take a bench trial and rely in the letter of the law and common law decisions if I was one of the involved officers.

This is assuming there is an indictment.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10510 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:00 am to
I guess no one will post the Ofc Dinkheller video? You know the one where the shooter was acting crazy, reaches into his vehicle several times, while Dinkheller gives verbal commands to stop. Shooter continues to reach into vehicle, eventually pulling out a rifle and killing Dinkheller.

That was a very similar situation where the officer was hesitant to apply force and it cost him his life. It is a video every officer has seen numerous times.

Dinkheller incident wiki
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 10:02 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:02 am to
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he's clearly reaching into the car.

Shooting is justified.


So what? Goddamn you people are stupid as hell. The dude was not even a suspect, his car stalled. The police had no right to even be dealing with him.

Funny how small government conservatives just bend over and take it when it comes to government murdering citizens.
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